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JohnHW
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posted: 2024-06-21 10:29:25 (ID: 100184717) Report Abuse
Dumbarajko wrote:

That is not how first string works.

When is healthy and there is only one first string at that position he must came back to play, because first string overrule any other rules.

When you have more than one first stringer and only one can play on that formation (for example RB) than one that plays is one that has energy higher than settings (for example first one has 79%, second one has 84%, limit is at 80% than the second one would play).

So in my experience over a lot of seasons first string must play when healthy regardless what other settings are.


It's software so it's not only a question of 'what is the rule?' (all available first string players are selected above all available not first string players), but also 'when is the rule checked?'.

You state that the rule is checked before every play. Pete says that it is checked when certain trigger events occur.

How often in those years have you run into a situation where the first string is injured and a not first string is subbed in and then the first string recovers from the injury and have then checked whether that first stringer comes immediately back into the game on the next possible play? Have you varied your substitution energy limit to test whether that makes a difference to this specific scenario?

If you have checked every game through those years where you have first string and non first string players then, wow! It wouldn't cross my mind to even look for this detail.

If you haven't then you don't know for sure whether it has occurred to you over the years, even for a few occasional plays.

What I don't know is the substitution energy limit set by yourself and by Kottan. If it was set to 90% then either his offence was never on the field in H2 (so very little energy loss) or this isn't the issue. If it was set to 10% to ensure very few substitutions then I think that this is a perfectly possible outcome.
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Kottan
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posted: 2024-06-21 21:06:27 (ID: 100184721) Report Abuse
I've been playing this game for 13 years and I've never had this problem before. That's why I reported it as a bug and for me it is one.

But I had set up the affected OC in the same DC as STBL. I've learned from it now and deleted ALL OCs from the DC of STBL if Pete says it is NOT a bug and the program requires it. If the same thing happens again, I can only report it AGAIN.
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pete
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posted: 2024-06-21 21:28:21 (ID: 100184722)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
Just to make sure: we are not talking about a special team play, do we? Whe I was refering to wrong set DCs I did not talk about that Special Teams parts, but normal ones. Background is, that if you have the same person on another (no special team) position set as well, he was "on field" already ...

Last edited on 2024-06-21 21:30:01 by pete

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Radu91
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posted: 2024-06-21 21:42:40 (ID: 100184723) Report Abuse
Kottan wrote:
I've been playing this game for 13 years and I've never had this problem before. That's why I reported it as a bug and for me it is one.

But I had set up the affected OC in the same DC as STBL. I've learned from it now and deleted ALL OCs from the DC of STBL if Pete says it is NOT a bug and the program requires it. If the same thing happens again, I can only report it AGAIN.


After your player recovered from injury he played OG/L meaning he was in the depth chart at OG to. Acording to the Manual-Formations the order in which they are picked is OT/L; OT/R; OG/L; OG/R; OC.
So if your OC is in the depth chart at OT or OG, that will be the first option for the game engine to pick. Leave him only as OC with the ticked box and he will always be your 1st string OC.
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Radu91
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posted: 2024-06-22 05:49:25 (ID: 100184726) Report Abuse
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