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stealyourface
posted: 2014-07-30 18:10:44 (ID: 100039028) Report Abuse
some more than others...
im not revealing who i support though
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TombKing77
posted: 2014-07-30 18:12:37 (ID: 100039030) Report Abuse
stealyourface wrote:
some more than others...
im not revealing who i support though


After centuries if not millenia of constant struggle over that land, you're willing to take sides?
Good luck.
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stealyourface
posted: 2014-07-30 18:14:39 (ID: 100039031) Report Abuse
TombKing77 wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
some more than others...
im not revealing who i support though


After centuries if not millenia of constant struggle over that land, you're willing to take sides?
Good luck.


i may be partially influenced by the overwhelming public majority toward one side where i live
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JonnyP
posted: 2014-07-30 18:16:06 (ID: 100039032) Report Abuse
Neither 'side' in the war is worthy of support...

Reserve that for the innocent civillians who once again suffer due to the ambitions and prejudices of those who hold power.
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stealyourface
posted: 2014-07-30 18:19:26 (ID: 100039033) Report Abuse
JonnyP wrote:
Neither 'side' in the war is worthy of support...

Reserve that for the innocent civillians who once again suffer due to the ambitions and prejudices of those who hold power.


i can respect that
but i would ask to look at the facts and the whole history to see which side is traditionally the instigator
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JonnyP
posted: 2014-07-30 18:46:17 (ID: 100039040) Report Abuse
The 'whole' history.... way back to antiquity? Which is when all this began - different factions each believing it was their own 'holy' land.

Or 1948, when the west took the land from the Palestinians and gave it to the Jews?

Hamas are a repulsive group, don't get me wrong - and they have no doubt fanned the flames of the current situation, but I have a lot of sympathy for the innocent Palestinian people who just want to live in peace:
- with proper homes and facilities
- with jobs and a future
- without terrorists using them as human shields, and stashing weapons in their hospitals and schools
- and without the Israelis bombing them out of their homes, while allegedly aiming for the terrorists
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posted: 2014-07-30 18:50:28 (ID: 100039041) Report Abuse
JonnyP wrote:I have a lot of sympathy for the innocent Palestinian people who just want to live in peace:
- with proper homes and facilities
- with jobs and a future
- without terrorists using them as human shields, and stashing weapons in their hospitals and schools
- and without the Israelis bombing them out of their homes, while allegedly aiming for the terrorists




Everyone is tallking about "smart warfare" these days....just I never have seen it. Can't be so hard to find a few missiles in an area of a few square miles some would think. Seems to be wrong. Can't be hard to deliver such an area with meds, water, food...seems to be wrong...can't be so hard to go back 1 step on each side, and create kind of a neutral zone...couldnt be more wrong....Power-Abuse, Greed...those are the things to fight against..
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stealyourface
posted: 2014-07-30 18:51:50 (ID: 100039042) Report Abuse
JonnyP wrote:
The 'whole' history.... way back to antiquity? Which is when all this began - different factions each believing it was their own 'holy' land.

Or 1948, when the west took the land from the Palestinians and gave it to the Jews?

Hamas are a repulsive group, don't get me wrong - and they have no doubt fanned the flames of the current situation, but I have a lot of sympathy for the innocent Palestinian people who just want to live in peace:
- with proper homes and facilities
- with jobs and a future
- without terrorists using them as human shields, and stashing weapons in their hospitals and schools
- and without the Israelis bombing them out of their homes, while allegedly aiming for the terrorists


i have high amounts of sympathy for the innocent Palestinians also
i believe that a large percentage of them just want to live their lives in peace.

that just cant happen while hamas is still in power in gaza
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JonnyP
posted: 2014-07-30 18:54:04 (ID: 100039044) Report Abuse
stealyourface wrote:

that just cant happen while hamas is still in power in gaza


100% agree with that
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stealyourface
posted: 2014-07-30 18:55:03 (ID: 100039045) Report Abuse
JonnyP wrote:
stealyourface wrote:

that just cant happen while hamas is still in power in gaza


100% agree with that


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