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Drogon
Gardians

France   Drogon owns a supporter account

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posted: 2019-12-20 22:52:36 (ID: 100145590)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
wttlt wrote:everyone should be POed at you from season 2

Why season 2 ?


I forgot something.

wttlt wrote:because they didn't support the center or do not want it supported.

No ! That's wrong ! As far as I'm concerned, that's is not the reason why.
If you keep accusing me of such a thing I will have to tell you what being manupulative is.


wttlt wrote:and have directly called me a liar

According to most dictionaries, a person who tells lies is a liar.
You've repeated your own lies and refused to stop (although 4 times asked to !).
That's why I stated you are a liar.
Are you going to play the victim now or are you going to complain now ?


wttlt wrote:and accused me of spreading diarear

There's something about "spreading mental diarrhoea", sort of general thought not a fact, my own opinion (I guess you're not trying to squash my thoughts/opinion, right ?), and you were not accused of anything.
We all know the brain (if any) is not the exit of the gastrointestinal tract.
So you shouldn't take it personally but it really stinks, you know.


wttlt wrote:How ever, several here have been trying to squash my thoughts, opinions and facts that I have been pointing out

I've pointed out some facts and and I pointed out your lies.
If you keep pretending it's about your thoughts, opinions and facts I will have to tell you my opinion about what a fact is and what a lie is.

Last edited on 2019-12-21 04:02:05 by Drogon

ChoadW
Budapest Janitors

Hungary

Joined: 2019-04-22/S34
Posts: 182
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posted: 2019-12-21 00:50:27 (ID: 100145595) Report Abuse
wttlt wrote:
Others are reading these posts as well and may see the value in supporting the center next year.


In what universe does your repeated posting holds any value to anyone? You are like a door-to-door salesman with vacuum cleaners. You just cannot comprehend an answer that is not in-line with yours.

wttlt wrote:I also apologize if you took anything personally, as that was not my intension.


OK, now that is just a straight lie. You knew fully well what you are saying and what were your intentions.

wttlt wrote:How ever, several here have been trying to squash my thoughts, opinions and facts that I have been pointing out


You had no 'thoughts', just a single thought: pay in or leave. We never wanted to squash your thoughts, just after reading it 10 times we would be (much) happier if you would keep this one single thought to yourself. I myself don't want to mute the whole Dragons sub-forum and there's no option to mute this single sub-sub-forum or you.

wttlt wrote:and have directly called me a liar, troll


Before this post, I didn't call you a liar. I did in this, because you are. I called you a troll, because you are (hopefully).

wttlt wrote:they didn't support the center or do not want it supported.


I'm absolutely neutral to the center. I couldn't pay in, so I won't get anything out of it. Simple as that. If you can/want, do it.

wttlt wrote:Dragons support was 60%, lowest of any league. Is anyone proud of that?

If you are not proud of that, how do we change that? How do we improve those numbers, so that we are not the league with the lowest support?

There is a strategy of not supporting the media center, in hopes that those who do put funds in will not hit the 50% mark and loose money. Is this your strategy?


Outside of the sales pitch for the 11th time what has being proud has to do with all this...?! Proud of the league's Mediacenter contribution?! You cannot be actually serious here....I'm kind of shocked to be honest. I've been on the receiving end of several shitty sales pitches by various companies, religions, etc. and this is by far the worst I've ever seen. As a sidenote, if I'm not sure my investment is profitable (not just breaking even, mind you) there's no way on earth I'm investing until I know for sure.

wttlt wrote:Also, I would like to note that all of my posts to discuss the media center have been posted on the media centers thread in attempt to get more support.


In essence, this is false. Your very first post was indeed for this, anything after it? No. Your first post didn't get the response/reaction/effect you wanted and you kept nagging people, acting like the person who is 'right'.

The funny thing is that mathematically you are correct, the investment is worth it. NO ONE argue with you about this. The problem is that you cannot handle yourself, which creates animosity towards YOU. You are confusing this animosity towards YOU with animosity towards YOUR IDEA. If you think that after all you've said in the past few days made people who didn't contribute wanting to in the future, man you are so wrong. I could use the extra money, sure. Do I want you, of all people, to earn more because of my investment? I'd rather take the loss, thank you.
MonsterT95
posted: 2019-12-21 09:06:43 (ID: 100145606) Report Abuse
Currently sitting at minus 22M$.

No need to send me pm to pledge, I won't be able to.
linkleo911
Rio Galaxy

Brazil

Joined: 2019-01-16/S32
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posted: 2019-12-21 09:39:15 (ID: 100145608) Report Abuse
MonsterT95 wrote:
Currently sitting at minus 22M$.

No need to send me pm to pledge, I won't be able to.


wttlt
posted: 2019-12-21 12:15:43 (ID: 100145614) Report Abuse
Sorry monsters sell some players and try your best at getting your financials in order.
wttlt
posted: 2019-12-21 12:22:03 (ID: 100145615) Report Abuse
All my posts stand on their merit. Those who have no real arguments for an opposing view will generally break up a post into little out of context statements to argue or make a statement against. Call the person with an opposing views facts lies and call him names. They never seem to make a coherent post for the benefits they receive on not putting up the funds.

Now my next post will be a must read for all D2 and newer D1 members.
wttlt
posted: 2019-12-21 12:41:49 (ID: 100145616) Report Abuse
The big secret that most will never want anyone to know.

It should not be anyone's goal to make it and stay in D1. It should be everyone's goal to make it to the Elite league and be an Elite manager.

My secret and the best way to get there and to be an elite manager, in my opinion is to do what my elite team Thunderbolts did. Mimic those who made it before me. Another words, do what the other elite teams and managers did, or do.

Go to games, scroll to leagues and scroll to Elite. Look at what type of players they have, scout them. Look at their coaches, payrolls for combined coaches and players. Read through their games, see the formations they use with the personal they use against other formations.

Have questions, ask, though I would avoid asking those who are representing dragons, as you are their competition and the answer might not be correct, how ever elite teams from other leagues, I have found in the past to be very helpful and truthful.

Now mimicking means doing what they do. 30 out of 32, and year after year the % is extremely high, elite teams support the media center for real good reasons, maybe you should write some of them and ask them why, or may you should just follow their footsteps.

My team currently between coaches and players spends a little over 7.5 million per week and I plan to make money this year as my team will not be very effective using my back up QB against other elite teams. The media center is a huge factor in the reasoning behind my being able to profit along with other factors.
Drogon
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posted: 2019-12-21 13:10:02 (ID: 100145618) Report Abuse
wttlt wrote:All my posts stand on their merit. Those who have no real arguments for an opposing view will generally break up a post into little out of context statements to argue or make a statement against. Call the person with an opposing views facts lies and call him names. They never seem to make a coherent post for the benefits they receive on not putting up the funds.

Now my next post will be a must read for all D2 and newer D1 members.


I did not call you any name !
Drogon wrote:According to most dictionaries, a person who tells lies is a liar.

You've repeated your lies, you are a liar. That's a fact !
You refused to stop when asked to (4 times !), you're not a victim. That's a fact !

I'm not here to argue or make a statement against anything.

I'm not here to let you say "the league should be POed at everyone who didn't put their funds in" !
I'm not here to let you say my "team should be a bot" !
I'm not here to let you say "you will ask me to kindly leave, by requesting a league transfer" !
I'm not here to let you say "all of the Dragons League became a bunch of losers" because of me !

I can't remember : what did you say about your intention and your attempt ? I mean the arguments and the coherent things in your posts, except your joke about the apologies (that was funny !). I've made a list (a few posts above) if you don't want to read all of your many things.


Drogon wrote:
wttlt wrote:everyone should be POed at you from season 2

Why season 2 ?

So, you don't have any coherent argument ?

You must be aware and aknowledge that you have to blame yourself if you want to help the entire league and the RZA community !

"Your next post will be..." ?
Let's wait and see.
ChoadW
Budapest Janitors

Hungary

Joined: 2019-04-22/S34
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posted: 2019-12-21 13:11:50 (ID: 100145619) Report Abuse
wttlt wrote:
All my posts stand on their merit. Those who have no real arguments for an opposing view will generally break up a post into little out of context statements to argue or make a statement against. Call the person with an opposing views facts lies and call him names. They never seem to make a coherent post for the benefits they receive on not putting up the funds.

Now my next post will be a must read for all D2 and newer D1 members.


As you wish. Your posts stand on their merit, because they are one statement 10 times repeated and they are subjective as well. The statements were not broken up to pull them out of context. You would make a great politician considering you are really good at ignoring everyone and everything and repeating your single thing countless times.

We don't have opposing views, never did.
wttlt
posted: 2019-12-21 17:49:12 (ID: 100145627)  Edits found: 2 Report Abuse
For the last time Dorgan, stop reposting tidbits of out of context information and then ranting about it, I state my facts and opinion why the media center should be supported, and I have been attacked for that. Why wont you make an coherent argument why the media center should not be supported, please explain how it is a benefit to the individual, or this league, to not support the media center. Clearly a lot some how or another must believe that there is a benefit to not supporting it for some reason as this league has the lowest support year after year.

For the finale time.

I stated the game is better of with you in it as we get to play a live person.

I also stated or tried to make the following point.

The league would be better of financially if you where not in it. Meaning if you went bot, the money would be put up and we would be rewarded financially, and next year the person taking your place might put up the funds making the league better of financially. Every thing I said in this statement is factually true, that is what would happen. But again you will go on again ranting that I want you to go bot.

I have made all my arguments why people should put in their money, and it is clear they should.

I pointed out those who refuse to support the center, cause everyone in dragons harm financially. (understanding some cant due to financial inability)

I also pointed out that every other league has a financial advantage over those with in dragons, this is a yearly event. And I said people should be POed about this and for the lack of support, Yes I think they should be, but apparently you think we should be jumping for joy at being the worst placed league in supporting the center.

You should be proud of your stance Dorgan, and argue why it is a benefit to the league, or how it is a benefit to the individual team, not to donate to the center, you obviously think it is beneficial not to donate anything to the center, instead you will take what I have said again out of context and go on and on with rants, to bury important posts that I have made that would help members become great players.

Last edited on 2019-12-21 17:51:18 by wttlt

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