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Turtlemania
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posted: 2012-01-11 15:30:54 (ID: 23465) Report Abuse |
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Listen Buffalo
When i expect 173 Points (mathematic confirmed by Admin as you can see in post above) and get only 80 then please dont come me with Consistency and Experience Even now we know have effect - oh sorry, now i dumbass know it has effect, all other knew it the effect can not be mathematical possible to cut expectation in half base on formulas posted and confiremd by Admins Last edited on 2012-01-11 15:32:36 by Turtlemania |
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Buffalo
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posted: 2012-01-11 15:47:41 (ID: 23474) Report Abuse |
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Turtlemania wrote:
Listen Buffalo When i expect 173 Points (mathematic confirmed by Admin as you can see in post above) and get only 80 then please dont come me with Consistency and Experience Even now we know have effect - oh sorry, now i dumbass know it has effect, all other knew it the effect can not be mathematical possible to cut expectation in half base on formulas posted and confiremd by Admins OK I will be silent at this topic. Turtle is MR. Trainings and Youthpoint and I'm clueless about this topic.  |
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posted: 2012-01-11 15:57:55 (ID: 23477) |
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Turtle: I told you I would look into your details this evening, so don't get me wrong, but "shut up" until I can look into it. It makes absolutely no sense to go into the forums and post halfway knowledge until you got any news on your bug report.
I can say for myself, the training points in YA worked as expected, taken CON/EXP of the HC into account. But that is all I can say for now. Yes, there seem to be a misunderstanding in the manual, all information is there, but could be understand in a different way as intended. But this is another story. From all I can say Buffalo is right for the theoretical aspect of this thing, so there is no reason in attacking him. Sorry buffalo, in the name of those users. |
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Buffalo
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posted: 2012-01-11 15:59:42 (ID: 23479) Report Abuse |
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Sorry buffalo, in the name of those users. Accepted  |
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Turtlemania
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posted: 2012-01-11 16:01:30 (ID: 23480) Report Abuse |
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Admin wrote:
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So, with HC 84, 7 ACs and YA 1, I will have more than 101 CP? trainingpoints=( ( youthacademy level + 1 ) * 5 ) + (HC CP / 2) trainingpoints=( ( 1 + 1 ) * 5 ) + (84 / 2) trainingpoints=2 * 5 + 42 = 52 52 * 1.1 = 57 * 1.1 = 63 * 1.1 = 69 * 1.1 = 76 * 1.1 = 84 * 1.1 = 92 * 1.1 = 101  So this is "half knowledge"? Ok so i know from now so i can ask for every detail for even more clarification from now one and double check even every statement make by Admins just to be sure - thanks for the hint! |
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Turtlemania
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posted: 2012-01-11 16:03:17 (ID: 23481) Report Abuse |
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Buffalo wrote:
Admin wrote:
Sorry buffalo, in the name of those users. Accepted This time is again no issue against you Its disappoint to see every thing go up in blow while try to play within the rules and formulas given |
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panoramix
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posted: 2012-01-11 16:05:07 (ID: 23482) Report Abuse |
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Admin wrote:I can say for myself, the training points in YA worked as expected, taken CON/EXP of the HC into account. But that is all I can say for now.
Sorry Pete, but this is not written anywhere. In one of the 100 topics about the coaches, I wrote you about the calculation of the additional training points to the YA. Your answer was extremely precise and not concerning about any consistency and/or experience...  |
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panoramix
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posted: 2012-01-11 16:07:53 (ID: 23483) Report Abuse |
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Turtlemania wrote:
Admin wrote:
panoramix wrote:
So, with HC 84, 7 ACs and YA 1, I will have more than 101 CP? trainingpoints=( ( youthacademy level + 1 ) * 5 ) + (HC CP / 2) trainingpoints=( ( 1 + 1 ) * 5 ) + (84 / 2) trainingpoints=2 * 5 + 42 = 52 52 * 1.1 = 57 * 1.1 = 63 * 1.1 = 69 * 1.1 = 76 * 1.1 = 84 * 1.1 = 92 * 1.1 = 101 So this is "half knowledge"? Ok so i know from now so i can ask for every detail for even more clarification from now one and double check even every statement make by Admins just to be sure - thanks for the hint! Thanks Turtle, that's the post I was looking for
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NYDOGS
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posted: 2012-01-11 16:14:38 (ID: 23484) Report Abuse |
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panoramix wrote:
Admin wrote:I can say for myself, the training points in YA worked as expected, taken CON/EXP of the HC into account. But that is all I can say for now.
Sorry Pete, but this is not written anywhere. In one of the 100 topics about the coaches, I wrote you about the calculation of the additional training points to the YA. Your answer was extremely precise and not concerning about any consistency and/or experience... It's on the manual, coaching, last point As mentioned earlier, the consistency and experience of the coaches play a role in the calculations. In general, the higher they are the better. You do not need to know exactly how the calculations work. However, if you are curious, the formula is as follows: EXP = Coaches Experience (each full star represents 10 points here, 3 star Experience = EXP 30) CON = Coaches Consistency (each full star represents 10 points here, 3 star Consistency = CON 30) rand = Random Number Generator Exp-Factor = 1 + ((EXP - 40 ) / 100 / 2) rand_con=1 + (rand(0 - (55-CON),(55-CON)) / 100 / 5) EXP-CON-factor=Exp-Factor * rand_con Final-CP = CP * EXP-CON-factor The calculation is done once per event. This means, if a coach gets a bonus based on consistency, the actual CP used will be the same for the complete training of all players, or for a complete game. There are no recalculations based on consistency during the same event. |
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JonnyP
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posted: 2012-01-11 16:26:47 (ID: 23486) Report Abuse |
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Turtlemania wrote:
Admin wrote:
panoramix wrote:
So, with HC 84, 7 ACs and YA 1, I will have more than 101 CP? trainingpoints=( ( youthacademy level + 1 ) * 5 ) + (HC CP / 2) trainingpoints=( ( 1 + 1 ) * 5 ) + (84 / 2) trainingpoints=2 * 5 + 42 = 52 52 * 1.1 = 57 * 1.1 = 63 * 1.1 = 69 * 1.1 = 76 * 1.1 = 84 * 1.1 = 92 * 1.1 = 101 So this is "half knowledge"? Ok so i know from now so i can ask for every detail for even more clarification from now one and double check even every statement make by Admins just to be sure - thanks for the hint! I have to admit that when I read that initially, I saw it the way Turtle does.... assumed that Cons would add a variability factor to the above formula and that Exp would have a main impact directly on match performance. It was an unpleasant surprise when I got 50-60 less YA points for training than I had expected, and overall, my training gains were on average worse than under the previous system (I have a 96 HC, and 8 other coaches ranging between 59 and 76). Yes it can be argued that I hired young and cheap, with a longer term outlook in mind (they will gain experience slowly), but the overall impact of experience is greater than the above formula suggested. |
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