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posted: 2018-05-27 20:38:11 (ID: 100129216) Report Abuse
At least the chances are higher the MLB feels bound to the TE.
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posted: 2018-05-27 20:41:34 (ID: 100129217) Report Abuse
Meitheisman wrote:
pete wrote:
Meitheisman wrote:
What were the two LBs doing on the play?


At least not their duty


Do they ever do it?

I've just searched a bunch of short passes to the TE from the Pro Set and not once was the TE tackled by the MLB or OLB for a short gain.




I don't see that
In my games file from this season:

132 completed passes to the TE from the pro set
55 tackled by LBs
48 by CBs
21 by SFs
8 no tackles (TDs)

the LB tackles:
21 after 1-5 yards gain
17 after 6-10 yards gain
17 after 11-15 yards gain
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hollyhh2000
posted: 2018-05-27 20:44:02 (ID: 100129218)  Edits found: 2 Report Abuse
pete wrote:
At least the chances are higher the MLB feels bound to the TE.




statistical fluke?

55 LB tackles from pro set/ 53 by OLB / L

Last edited on 2018-05-27 20:47:12 by hollyhh2000

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posted: 2018-05-27 20:46:55 (ID: 100129219) Report Abuse
hollyhh2000 wrote:
pete wrote:
At least the chances are higher the MLB feels bound to the TE.




statistical fluke?

55 LB tackles / 53 by OLB / L


Possible Reason 1: the TE had no "in routes"...

Possible Reason 2: the OLB is deciding to follow the TE because of not having other duties.

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Meitheisman
posted: 2018-05-27 20:52:38 (ID: 100129220) Report Abuse
hollyhh2000 wrote:
Meitheisman wrote:
pete wrote:
Meitheisman wrote:
What were the two LBs doing on the play?


At least not their duty


Do they ever do it?

I've just searched a bunch of short passes to the TE from the Pro Set and not once was the TE tackled by the MLB or OLB for a short gain.




I don't see that
In my games file from this season:

132 completed passes to the TE from the pro set
55 tackled by LBs
48 by CBs
21 by SFs
8 no tackles (TDs)

the LB tackles:
21 after 1-5 yards gain
17 after 6-10 yards gain
17 after 11-15 yards gain


Thanks Holly, wonderful data, as usual
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hollyhh2000
posted: 2018-05-27 20:53:01 (ID: 100129221)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
pete wrote:

Possible Reason 1: the TE had no "in routes"...

Possible Reason 2: the OLB is deciding to follow the TE because of not having other duties.



hm maybe you want to add more in routes
unfortunately we cannot design or at least chose from different routes

if I look at the LB tackling on TE receptions from this season from all formations:
26 MLB tackles vs 700 OLB tackles

taken from games that I determine competitive (highly subjective)

Last edited on 2018-05-27 20:53:32 by hollyhh2000

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posted: 2018-05-27 21:37:17 (ID: 100129222) Report Abuse
Meitheisman wrote:
punch drunk wrote:
Meitheisman wrote:


If you look at the player's stats he got 3 catches for 105 yards and 85 yards after the catch. This proves that each pass was 6/7 yards in the air and the rest of the distance was gained after the catch, in the case of the TD that's 77 yards after the catch.


The point is

Wrong defense formation. Wrong personnel on the field.

The 4-4-3 got burned.


The point is that the LBs should cover short passes. A pass under 10 yards to the right should fall where the LMLB and/or LOLB are.

This is the 443 from the manual, the black box is basically where the pass was caught. What were the two LBs doing on the play?
Link

Source: https://postimg.cc/image/x7anlwjd3/


Wow. Ever see long pass plays in real life? They happen. Blown coverage. Cover confusion. Spectacular route running.

Stuff happens. Using 1 safety formations are not the best vs passing.

Still the same point.

The WRONG defense got burned.
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