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Buffalo
posted: 2012-08-10 10:19:11 (ID: 51530) Report Abuse
sh8888 wrote:
scottishbronco wrote:
This is why it pays to have balanced players and not one skill wonders


Looking at the TM, it seems that a small but increasing minority are not heeding your advice ..... there seems to be a few one-skillers of epic proportions that surface from time to time. Although I have noticed that the same 3 or 4 managers seem to be responsible for most of the notoriously one-skilled players that I've seen.


I think the gameengine will never support one-skill-wonders. They are only expensive and have a worse performance. The managers with these player don't read the advices in the forum.

The worst player I scoutet was a WR with 41 Speed and 48 catching.

His stats are not better than my balanced build WR.
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Turtlemania
posted: 2012-08-10 10:39:37 (ID: 51533) Report Abuse
Buffalo wrote:

I think the gameengine will never support one-skill-wonders.


And i do not see any proof until now! Or maybe i have to say that i see not proof engine is handling balanced one-skill-wonders.

When i get beat hard the last games, then mostly by actions of one-skill-wonders

And sure then i wonder a bit because especiall when think of this specific statement and know i do not think i have bad trained players

But maybe its again just too early to be sure, because we are not with our teams at kindergarden level, but only bit ore mature at high-school level and i simply have to wait more.
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posted: 2012-08-10 11:01:00 (ID: 51535) Report Abuse
Might be there is different understanding here...lets say you have a WR, on skill wonder, high catching...

He will often win the situation where catching is needed, but he will be poor on physics, on tactics, and on carrying the ball after the catch. I don't see anything wrong on this philosophy
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Turtlemania
posted: 2012-08-10 11:06:29 (ID: 51536) Report Abuse
pete wrote:He will often win the situation where catching is needed, but he will be poor on physics, on tactics, and on carrying the ball after the catch. I don't see anything wrong on this philosophy


But he will catch! And because there is no chance that his poor physics will be overmatched by better build LB/SF/CB and cause fumble to loss ball and have turnover the WR with high catching will win and keep the ball in play for offense

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posted: 2012-08-10 11:09:38 (ID: 51538) Report Abuse
Turtlemania wrote:
pete wrote:He will often win the situation where catching is needed, but he will be poor on physics, on tactics, and on carrying the ball after the catch. I don't see anything wrong on this philosophy


But he will catch! And because there is no chance that his poor physics will be overmatched by better build LB/SF/CB and cause fumble to loss ball and have turnover the WR with high catching will win and keep the ball in play for offense



The bold is wrong, or I misunderstand you here.
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Turtlemania
posted: 2012-08-10 11:20:10 (ID: 51539) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
The bold is wrong, or I misunderstand you here.


Is there chance for receiver to fumble ball? Not at the moment, so how could a round build defender has his round build advantage make work?

Or see it the other way around:

Round build receiver get passes by round build qb and both at good level for current game.

But completition rate is bad, because opponent has CB with only high tackling and low physicals

Sure maybe in one case at game round build receiver with good speed will break out but before lost enough balls to make turnover for team

Sorry Admin to say over and over that i see no proof but i do not look at 1-2 plays

And more sorry for me because im round builder and if there is no proof in future i will be doomed
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posted: 2012-08-10 11:26:47 (ID: 51540) Report Abuse
I agree on some of the aspects, but not on the whole message "do oneskillwonders, they are better".

Even on te part pof catching the ball, to stick with that examples, there are other skills involved beside catching: one tactical element, and 3 physicals.

There is no single situation in the game, where we have only one skill that makes it. we have some few with 2 skills, but most situations ask for more than 2.
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KingOfTh3Hil
posted: 2012-08-10 11:31:13 (ID: 51541) Report Abuse
The more round - build a player is, the more he benefits from all different situations in the game.

If hes "specialized" in a few skills he will be great in some/one situation but performs bad in others.

Gives the managers some options on how to have it and their play on the field.

Why not use some rounded players and some one skilled ones
I do that...
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hosh13
posted: 2012-08-10 15:09:20 (ID: 51568) Report Abuse
It would be a fair guess to assume that a player with one skill very high would get a large advantage if that matches up on the corresponding weak skill of the opponent. It might even be exponential.

As for WR, if there's a DB competing for the ball then strength probably plays a large role as well. And catching perhaps. If both a DB and a WR can make a play on a pass then you'd think strength (muscle each other out of the way) and catching would be prominent. One might think vision and agility too but the manual seems to indicate not. Maybe positioning could play a role not only in a WR getting open (and DB covering) but it might also play a role in maneuvering along with strength and catch.

At the end of the day I guess it's a matter of try and see! Probably good as a rookie to train a few different WRs (and all positions) in different ways and see what seems to win out.
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