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posted: 2012-08-20 15:53:25 (ID: 53122) Report Abuse
I feel the need to explain why we decided to use number of plays fr the calculation of experience.

Number of plays is nothing less than time on the field. I guess this number is much more what experience should represent than number of games or whatever.

But why (the hell...) a kicker should gain 200 or 500% compared to a OL per play? I see absolutely no reason for this. The only things why you are "complaining" is the fact the kicker/punter gains experience much slower. But hey, it is not the goal of this game to have 5* experience players in your roster...win your damn games...



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Tarjan
posted: 2012-08-20 20:05:55 (ID: 53154) Report Abuse
The easiest way to get Exp is to draft it.

The increasing of Exp is so low that i started to put exp in the formular of detecting my new draftchoices.

I didn´t exactly looked after exp in the last season except that i didn´t care for it after the draft anymore and use "botgames", friendlies and the supercup just to increase TC and not for raising the Exp.
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sh8888
posted: 2012-08-20 20:13:42 (ID: 53156) Report Abuse
Tarjan wrote:
The easiest way to get Exp is to draft it.


or buy it on the TM .

Experience is a tricky one because it takes a long time to accumulate .... but surely that's the point, it should take a long time to accumulate
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panoramix
posted: 2012-08-20 20:27:19 (ID: 53160) Report Abuse
Sorry Pete for the other thread.

Crispino Montesano (OL), 147 matches, 6544 plays, 5140 blocks...2,5 points
And he started at two stars.

More than 4 seasons on the line of scrimmage to gain a half star of experience?
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Tarjan
posted: 2012-08-20 20:31:33 (ID: 53163) Report Abuse
sh8888 wrote:
Tarjan wrote:
The easiest way to get Exp is to draft it.


or buy it on the TM .

Experience is a tricky one because it takes a long time to accumulate .... but surely that's the point, it should take a long time to accumulate


Yes but why drafted player have higher exp (not all but a lot of them) than the players you work through your YA. The Draft is regularly a pull out of "young" players, so why there are 3 Star exp players in the draft??

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posted: 2012-08-20 20:38:16 (ID: 53166) Report Abuse
@panoramix:Yes...

a player can have around 12-17 years career. He should hit full experience - if ever!! - between 28 and 30, if playing min 70 plays per game, and 0.5 friendlies, 1 league and 1 SC game per RZA-week...

@all:Now - you math fanatics - put excel on the table, and turn fun into science...


Needless to say: I won't comment on on posts like "my excel is giving me ..., it does not match your post"

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posted: 2012-08-20 20:40:47 (ID: 53169) Report Abuse
I have a 25 year old player with 4* EXP. I think he can get 5*
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posted: 2012-08-20 20:52:14 (ID: 53170) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
@panoramix:Yes...

a player can have around 12-17 years career. He should hit full experience - if ever!! - between 28 and 30, if playing min 70 plays per game, and 0.5 friendlies, 1 league and 1 SC game per RZA-week...


Thanks Pete.
I'm not a math-fanatic, but a half star for 147 games seems simply too slow.
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posted: 2012-08-20 21:19:29 (ID: 53175) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
I feel the need to explain why we decided to use number of plays fr the calculation of experience.

Number of plays is nothing less than time on the field. I guess this number is much more what experience should represent than number of games or whatever.

But why (the hell...) a kicker should gain 200 or 500% compared to a OL per play? I see absolutely no reason for this. The only things why you are "complaining" is the fact the kicker/punter gains experience much slower. But hey, it is not the goal of this game to have 5* experience players in your roster...win your damn games...





Why not ... for a kicker, one kick can make or break a career. You do hear OL getting cut for giving up a sack.

Not gamorous but its probably the most pressured (in terms of playing for your career) position so makes sense he'd learn more per kick because on a personal level it means more.
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sfniner08
posted: 2012-08-20 22:32:35 (ID: 53181) Report Abuse
ex·pe·ri·ence [ ik spree ənss ]
involvement in something over time: active involvement in an activity or exposure to events or people over a period of time that leads to an increase in knowledge or skill
knowledge or skill acquired: knowledge or skill gained through being involved in or exposed to something over a period of time
sum total of somebody's experiences: the sum total of the things that have happened to a person and of his or her past thoughts and feelings

I see no reason for a position to gain experience faster or slower than another outside of the natural reasons. Experience is gained on what you do. The number of plays are the number of things you "do." It is a reality of life.

I'll give you a real life example in my profession, teaching.

As an elementary (some call it primary school) teacher who teaches the same class all day and all subjects, I get few opportunities to teach the same lesson again. I usually have to wait until the next year to teach the same math lesson again. My experience on that lesson grows slowly, but I have plenty of reflection time.

I have also taught PE in the elementary setting where I taught the same lesson 3 to 6 times in a day. My experience for those lessons was plentiful. By the end of the day I had it down pat so that next year it was even better.

It is just a fact that a PE teacher has more experience per lesson than a classroom teacher in the elementary setting.

It is the same here. A kicker or punter may get less opportunities and thus less experience.


A kicker also gets to kickoff besides field goals, so he does have more opportunities than some might think.

I do have a question about QB experience though. Does his experience happen per pass attempt or just every play he is on the field? If I had to pick one or the other, per pass attempt would be it. It seems kind of "cheap" that a QB can gain experience by just handing the ball off 45 times in a game. I obviously have little motive to have that option as I hand off 60 times a game lol.
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