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scottishbronco
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posted: 2012-09-27 21:13:18 (ID: 58998) Report Abuse |
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Money does go along way to success in any form of sport but you have to spend it wisely.
It makes no sense to restrict attendances for play off games. those are some of the most sought after tickets going. I could understand this suggestion if we could control ticket prices, but im sure they don't change regardless of what competition our teams play. Might be a better suggestion to increase the splits between teams during the playoffs but not to restrict the attendances. |
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bwadders76
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posted: 2012-09-27 23:23:09 (ID: 59001) Report Abuse |
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sfniner08 wrote:
Well...you are the one that brought the money up... Anyways, seems a bit self serving to put a suggestion up that would affect those ahead of you negatively and you not at all. Why is it that you feel so strongly that a winning team has to be limited by your standards of income? Most of your suggestions (there are plenty  ) seem to focus on making the playing field so even that everyone is able to compete for the championship wether it is the first season for them or the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th. Is that where you are aiming? I ask seriously, not to antagonize or be a smart mouth. Perhaps that is the difference between the opinions here?
I personally don't believe that something should be nerfed or buffed just to make everything even. Too much....oh I won't go into that yet... I have to agree with you here. In whatever sport is played in RL the most successful teams or individuals earn the most prize money. In the NFL its the TV revenues and things like that are split to try to create parity not the prize money. Last season your side played 31 competitive games SF played 45 so why shouldn't SF earn more in ticket revenue than you? You can afford to carry a smaller squad because there is less of a demand on your players. Lets say for example both sides carry a squad of 50 players. They damage to the PC would be less for you so you can spend more time training your players on skills but SF with having games coming thick and fast he would need to train PC more than you. Lets not penalise teams for being successful here because this is what we are all aiming at. Im using SF as an example because he was probably one of the top two most successful sides last season. What you are basically telling him is that because you are so successful and I want to catch up I am going to limit your earnings. So now he has the following problems 1, Potentially 50% more games to play than most teams 2, By being there to be shot at he could face 27 different games where he is having MOTY used on him 3, Its not fair on the others so we are going to tie one arm behind your back to allow the newbies to catch up what if SF then says stuff this I'll go to a game where being successful is rewarded, someone else takes his place and he gets hit with the same problems and goes. The challenge should be to aspire to the position people like SF have put themselves into not to beat them with a stick for having the audacity to be one of the best teams in this game just so you can catch up quicker. The only financial issue that needs resolving here is that 2.1 and 2.2 teams like me who are doing well this season (Im 11-1 BTW) have probably earnt the same in ticket revenue as a 5-7 1,1 team. |
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-09-29 16:37:07 (ID: 59164) Report Abuse |
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sfniner08 wrote:
Most of your suggestions (there are plenty ) seem to focus on making the playing field so even that everyone is able to compete for the championship wether it is the first season for them or the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th. Is that where you are aiming? I ask seriously, not to antagonize or be a smart mouth. Perhaps that is the difference between the opinions here?Well this is pretty much the point exactly. The issues are - 1/ Can I reach the top of the mountain? 2/ How long will it take if I'm the perfect manager? The answer to 1 leads to the answer for 2. The answer to 1 is yes. You can climb the "tiers" as follows. 1/ normal 2/ + $20M 3/ + $40M 4/ + $60M+ So a "normal" team is one that doesn't make the playoffs and earns normal money. Tier 2 is like a wildcard team, tier 3 is winning wildcards and maybe more and the tier 4 teams are the ones that can certainly win it all. They go deep in all 3 playoff series and make BIG money. This funds there expensive and superior rosters - one is born out of the other - snowball. I would say that only tier 3 and 4 type teams can win SC, SB and GB. But they would probably be tier 4. I would say that it would take at least 4 seasons to get to tier 2. So I would say you're looking at a minimum of 6 seasons to be able to take yourself seriously. And that's probably a little optomistic as well. So I guess it's what one thinks is a reasonable timeframe to get to tier 4, or at least tier 3. |
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-09-29 17:03:38 (ID: 59171) Report Abuse |
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FYI, if a team won it's SB, the GB and the CofC final they make -
$76,756,875 On the off chance a team won it's SB as a wildcard - $82,200,625 Last edited on 2012-09-29 17:03:52 by hosh13 |
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bwadders76
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posted: 2012-09-29 20:49:27 (ID: 59205) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
sfniner08 wrote:
Most of your suggestions (there are plenty ) seem to focus on making the playing field so even that everyone is able to compete for the championship wether it is the first season for them or the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th. Is that where you are aiming? I ask seriously, not to antagonize or be a smart mouth. Perhaps that is the difference between the opinions here?Well this is pretty much the point exactly. The issues are - 1/ Can I reach the top of the mountain? 2/ How long will it take if I'm the perfect manager? The answer to 1 leads to the answer for 2. The answer to 1 is yes. You can climb the "tiers" as follows. 1/ normal 2/ + $20M 3/ + $40M 4/ + $60M+ So a "normal" team is one that doesn't make the playoffs and earns normal money. Tier 2 is like a wildcard team, tier 3 is winning wildcards and maybe more and the tier 4 teams are the ones that can certainly win it all. They go deep in all 3 playoff series and make BIG money. This funds there expensive and superior rosters - one is born out of the other - snowball. I would say that only tier 3 and 4 type teams can win SC, SB and GB. But they would probably be tier 4. I would say that it would take at least 4 seasons to get to tier 2. So I would say you're looking at a minimum of 6 seasons to be able to take yourself seriously. And that's probably a little optomistic as well. So I guess it's what one thinks is a reasonable timeframe to get to tier 4, or at least tier 3. So what is it you want? A game where you can join and go from a poor 2.x team to a perennial SC and COC contender in 2 seasons? That doesnt happen in any sport |
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-09-29 21:26:42 (ID: 59212) Report Abuse |
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bwadders76 wrote:
So what is it you want? A game where you can join and go from a poor 2.x team to a perennial SC and COC contender in 2 seasons? That doesnt happen in any sport I'd think after about 4 seasons. If you took over an NFL team as a college coach, how long would you tell the owner it would take? bladders - "Awe, gimee about 6 or 7 seasons and..........................." Owner - click-ckick...............baaaaaang! |
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bwadders76
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posted: 2012-09-29 23:22:58 (ID: 59232) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
bwadders76 wrote:
So what is it you want? A game where you can join and go from a poor 2.x team to a perennial SC and COC contender in 2 seasons? That doesnt happen in any sport I'd think after about 4 seasons. If you took over an NFL team as a college coach, how long would you tell the owner it would take? bladders - "Awe, gimee about 6 or 7 seasons and..........................." Owner - click-ckick...............baaaaaang! Totally different propostion even if it was a new franchise the stadium would be in place meaning the income would be there, the owner would have placed significant funds to bring the new players in. The NFL would ensure that a new team gains more draft picks or at least better ones so that they can actually build the side. Whats the quickest any team has gone from formation to winning the NFL? and how quick did they do it? Look it up see the answer and you want that to be the rule not the exception. I am all for a level playing field but not when the playing field is going to be tilted in favour of the weaker sides. Win your conference this season enter the CoC next season then if you aren't happy with the extra income please feel free to ask Pete to remove the income from your account or use that extra money to buy a rubbish player from a new team so they can catch up with you. I bet you wont!! |
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hosh13
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posted: 2012-09-30 02:09:42 (ID: 59243) Report Abuse |
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bwadders76 wrote:
Totally different propostion even if it was a new franchise the stadium would be in place meaning the income would be there, the owner would have placed significant funds to bring the new players in. The NFL would ensure that a new team gains more draft picks or at least better ones so that they can actually build the side. Stadiums can be renewed/renovated. The condition and type of stadium can dictate tickets (either price or number). The initial team could be better and/or the rates of training could be higher. The fact is, if it's found that many are leaving because the process is too drawn out, then something like this will be neccessary. |
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bwadders76
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posted: 2012-09-30 02:59:25 (ID: 59247) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
bwadders76 wrote:
Totally different propostion even if it was a new franchise the stadium would be in place meaning the income would be there, the owner would have placed significant funds to bring the new players in. The NFL would ensure that a new team gains more draft picks or at least better ones so that they can actually build the side. Stadiums can be renewed/renovated. The condition and type of stadium can dictate tickets (either price or number). The initial team could be better and/or the rates of training could be higher. The fact is, if it's found that many are leaving because the process is too drawn out, then something like this will be neccessary. Well to get to the top here is going to take approximately 6 seasons you say? Thats probably less than 3 seasons in TOG which wouldnt even get you near the top in most leagues there. Feel free to poll the bots though and see why they left. Admirals 2.2 lost 6 this week. None of them started the season so I very much doubt thats why they have left. |
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sfniner08
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posted: 2012-09-30 03:15:44 (ID: 59249) Report Abuse |
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in the end it takes patience. SH8888 was able to contend for his division with in three seasons. There are several teams and dragons .. who have been able to come late and compete. A good manager is able to rise to the competition. Less than four seasons is not reasonable.
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