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Ranagol
posted: 2012-10-19 23:37:21 (ID: 62571) Report Abuse
This is more a question to Pete, so here goes:

I'd like to ask about how a SF reacts to a WR catching the ball in the new engine.

My first question is:
Does a SF start running towards a WR after the catch is made, when the QB makes the pass, or when the QB targets the WR?
So as we see it in the gamecenter:
A) QB selected WR/R as target -> SF starts running
B) QB selected WR/R as target, the pass goes outer screen right to the receiver -> SF starts running
C) QB selected WR/R as target, the pass goes outer screen right to the receiver, who catches the ball -> SF starts running

Next question:
How does the SF run exactly? If I remember correctly the engine is all about position on the field and distance. So here's 2 examples to chose from:

Figure A

Source: http://i47.tinypic.com/21eb8cp.jpg

The WR beats the CB, catches a 5 yard pass and starts running towards the endzone. Does the SF run towards the WR's current position in time like on the picture? It's a rough sketch, but that way the SF runs a nice curve, always facing the WR's current position. That's a lot of unnecesarry distance and will probably never catch up to the WR who's just running in a single line (unless he's a LOT faster)

Figure B

Source: http://i49.tinypic.com/t526pw.png

Same scenario, but the SF now runs to the place where the WR will most likely show up after running the same distance. Speed becomes less important than in figure A.

I'm asking this because I see a lot of plays ending with the sentence "the complete defensive backfield is missing", and when that's against a 335, 344 or 434 then that gets you wondering.
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bwadders76
posted: 2012-10-19 23:42:16 (ID: 62572) Report Abuse
I will watch this with interest as my draft safety makes on average just 2-3 tackles per game. Less in friendlies!!
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hosh13
posted: 2012-10-20 00:15:51 (ID: 62576) Report Abuse
My guess -

Figure A - poor POS
Figure B - excellent POS

imo, when the whole backfield misses, a LB/CB was burnt and the SF covered the other guy (or maybe was smoked as well as the LB/CB due to poor INT/POS/VIS/Spd).

I wonder if high INT can help a receiver fake a defender with lower INT? There is no doubt a SF with lowish INT is more likely to miss a play, but I wonder if the receiver has high INT that it makes it even worse for the SF?
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posted: 2012-10-20 08:44:17 (ID: 62602) Report Abuse
At is A for the first question in case the SF in nearby, and B or C if there is no SF on that side...having a centered SF means "no SF on side"

For 2nd question it is B
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holmeboy
posted: 2012-10-20 09:03:19 (ID: 62607) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
At is A for the first question in case the SF in nearby, and B or C if there is no SF on that side...having a centered SF means "no SF on side"


If the SF has higher vis/pos will it be more inclined towards A than B/C?
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posted: 2012-10-20 09:08:03 (ID: 62608) Report Abuse
Tactical skills determine of the player is more close to the WR, in this example...
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Ranagol
posted: 2012-10-20 13:06:33 (ID: 62626) Report Abuse
Great! Thanks for the answer!
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