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canonico
posted: 2012-10-19 17:37:20 (ID: 62499) Report Abuse
Monkey wrote:
took me longer than that at the start but still less than 2 seasons, how many of the 3 above posters have 100mil now or close to it? if you dont mind saying in public obviously i reckon by the end of your 2nd season maybe up to halfway through season 3 you should be up there in the money with freedom to do what you want on the TM or with your coaches/facilities/YA


Currently sitting at 90 Mil. But naturaly already spent some cash in the TM with some players, roughly 55 Mil spent on players from the TM thus far for me.
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jack6
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posted: 2012-10-19 17:43:02 (ID: 62500) Report Abuse
captainhero wrote:
jack6 wrote:
So you say you have the same situation as all managers had when they startet the game in season1 , only that you have several games in maxed out stadiums, which those season 1 teams didn't have ...

No, that's not what I'm saying. In the season 1 everyone had a level playing field. Same stadiums, more or less same squads. The best teams back then were ppl who knew how to play, had a plan, they could all be competitive in relatively short period of time.

Now that "building" period is increasing. New players are going to need 6-7 months to complete their stadiums and sell their best players in order to do it. While they build stadiums, they will lose heavily against much stronger teams and beat easily bots. And there are lots of them since players aren't really staying. In my 2.2. division at least 20 teams changed owners since I joined 3 weeks ago. With the way this game is going, I'd say you are stuck with a 100-200 hardcore players and a lot of passers who will log only once or twice. If that's the idea, then fine.

Increasing? Maybe compared to this season, but never to season 1.
You can have more that 25 40.000+ friendly games now in a season.
You think we had that in season 1?
You only have to be wait maybe 1-1,5 season and your stadium is full build.
I understand your fears, but they are not valid from my point of view.
captainhero wrote:
jack6 wrote:
Yes, it is all unfair and we all have golden armchairs, while those poor new managers will for ever be sitting on a wooden chair ....

No, they will look for chairs elsewhere.

That might be.
captainhero wrote:
jack6 wrote:
EVERY MANAGER HAS TO OVERCOME THE SEASON(s) WITH NO FULL BUILD STADIUM. AND EVERYONE HAS TO FIND A WAY TO GET IT BUILDED FAST.

Selling a pick is one strategie, building it over time another.

This is just wrong, things need to change. Economy and the strategies here make no sense.

Why is that wrong? It is not impossible to build a stadium.
And as explained above it is quite easy.
Might be not that easy as THIS season, but still easy.
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Monkey
posted: 2012-10-19 17:49:25 (ID: 62503) Report Abuse
canonico wrote:
Monkey wrote:
took me longer than that at the start but still less than 2 seasons, how many of the 3 above posters have 100mil now or close to it? if you dont mind saying in public obviously i reckon by the end of your 2nd season maybe up to halfway through season 3 you should be up there in the money with freedom to do what you want on the TM or with your coaches/facilities/YA


Currently sitting at 90 Mil. But naturaly already spent some cash in the TM with some players, roughly 55 Mil spent on players from the TM thus far for me.


and thats in exactly 5 months, i assume you sold no draft players and now your looking at 150+mil profit for next season and wages wont be a problem for at least 3 more(unless you go all out on 1 skill for each player) so now(i assume again lol) your goal is to learn from some defeats to big teams and improving your playbook as you learn the strengths and weaknesses of your team while your team advances along nicely with training, spending money as you see fit on the TM with very little holding you back from spending 100mil+ on players yourself now and very soon you will be just as strong as anybody(maybe a couple of seasons away if in a very tough league and division) bar the very best teams. sorry for using you as an example canonico but its better than 23 mil kicker jokes
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canonico
posted: 2012-10-19 17:59:58 (ID: 62506) Report Abuse
Monkey wrote:
canonico wrote:
Monkey wrote:
took me longer than that at the start but still less than 2 seasons, how many of the 3 above posters have 100mil now or close to it? if you dont mind saying in public obviously i reckon by the end of your 2nd season maybe up to halfway through season 3 you should be up there in the money with freedom to do what you want on the TM or with your coaches/facilities/YA


Currently sitting at 90 Mil. But naturaly already spent some cash in the TM with some players, roughly 55 Mil spent on players from the TM thus far for me.


and thats in exactly 5 months, i assume you sold no draft players and now your looking at 150+mil profit for next season and wages wont be a problem for at least 3 more(unless you go all out on 1 skill for each player) so now(i assume again lol) your goal is to learn from some defeats to big teams and improving your playbook as you learn the strengths and weaknesses of your team while your team advances along nicely with training, spending money as you see fit on the TM with very little holding you back from spending 100mil+ on players yourself now and very soon you will be just as strong as anybody(maybe a couple of seasons away if in a very tough league and division) bar the very best teams. sorry for using you as an example canonico but its better than 23 mil kicker jokes


That's preety much it, I haven't sold any draft players and had some bad luck, when I joined I missed out on the Draft by a day I believe, so I "only" have 3 draftees on my team. All my other players were either bought or developed in my team.

And like I mentioned once in the forum, I am taking it easy, no rush whatsoever to be a "flashy" team. Prefer to build a solid background that can be sustainable, so you can say I am slow building my players at this point. I also only have a average HC (73 I think) so I don't cough that much money into that.

I have set some goals, some I have reached earlier than I thought to be honest.

Side Note - My kicker Dominates to be honest, there hasn't been a kicker with so much publicity as my dude. (Don't even know his name)
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bwadders76
posted: 2012-10-19 18:50:32 (ID: 62510) Report Abuse
hosh13 wrote:
captainhero wrote:
I don't like that idea. In fact, I think it's completely wrong to have that as a strategy in a manager game.




This game is all about collecting these, not selling them off, especially when you only have a few.


We agree for once.
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bwadders76
posted: 2012-10-19 18:52:49 (ID: 62512) Report Abuse
To those without a maxed out stadium you can do this in less than 1 season and now with the new financial penalties in place it is going to cost more to keep that stadium.

I can see the point though that with more bots / new teams entering the supercup there may be less money flowing about for mid range teams but at the same time there are more teams reaching 144k stadiums.
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holmeboy
posted: 2012-10-19 19:05:55 (ID: 62518) Report Abuse
Monkey wrote:
took me longer than that at the start but still less than 2 seasons, how many of the 3 above posters have 100mil now or close to it? if you dont mind saying in public obviously i reckon by the end of your 2nd season maybe up to halfway through season 3 you should be up there in the money with freedom to do what you want on the TM or with your coaches/facilities/YA


I have 60mil atm with a net spend of about -65mil (~20mil was poorly investing in a fb I sold after barely using him ) so in two seasons I've built up my stadium and earned 125mil. However I did get coaches and maxed YA when I had around 70/80k seats so that would have slowed me down a bit.

Not to mention there are some bargin young players. For 3k I have an 18yo with 41.5 uncapped speed (was about 36/37 when bought), 32.4 yellow ! str, and 11.8 catching and carrying. Training him to be a WR atm and when he's 22/3 with capped speed at least 47 and 20 catching/agility/position he'll be worth a lot of money should I sell him. Have another player in a similar position but training as a LB/DB that cost 16k. So if I was to start again I'd certainly try to get a few players like those guys and build up to sell for some $$$

Last edited on 2012-10-19 19:06:19 by holmeboy

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E Logic
posted: 2012-10-23 13:31:30 (ID: 63133) Report Abuse
i will be the first to admit my big errors financially yet at the end of season one i had a 100k plus stadium and at the end of my secound season(the season just gone) i have $56,000,000 a full stadium/ fully upgraded YA/ full set of coaches/ and have reached the playoffs in both seasons. So I totally disagree about economic issues as after two seasons i dont see why you cant be in my position as a made big errors yet i am pretty good in terms of money and infrastructure. But in saying this it seems like there will be some changes to take some money out of the game for older teams which i do agree with.

Last edited on 2012-10-23 14:27:50 by E Logic

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