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| posted: 2013-01-02 20:15:54 (ID: 74376) Report Abuse | |
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Ebay is NOT fair. It might be everything, but not fair. It favors last minute snipers, which I dislike. It favors rich over poors, which I quite dislike. IMO Ebay is the worst of all
This is my final statement for an ebay like bid system. As (I believe) Notsch posted, the decision to create such a system is a political one. I understood th flaws of the current system, which favors the rich, and is a disadvantage for the people not being online 24 hours a day. The new system (might be existing parallel to the old one) should solve at least 1 of that issues, if possible without creating new ones. |
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hosh13
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posted: 2013-01-03 03:07:54 (ID: 74440) Report Abuse |
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Would there be rules regarding messages/emails between sellers/bidders?
It would be in a sellers interest to tell the lower bidders that they are being outbid so as to get higher bids. |
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posted: 2013-01-03 08:32:31 (ID: 74449) Report Abuse |
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hosh13 wrote:
Would there be rules regarding messages/emails between sellers/bidders? It would be in a sellers interest to tell the lower bidders that they are being outbid so as to get higher bids. How would you control such a thing without removing the PM system altogether? But then it could be posted in the forum or the chat cave. Even personal emails, texts or facebook messages could be sent. Of course it's in the sellers interest to tell the bidders what they need to beat but that's the same as any auction style system. The current TM, ebay and buying a home the vendor lets the losing bids know that they have to improve their bid and what the highest bid is. |
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hosh13
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posted: 2013-01-03 10:13:33 (ID: 74453) Report Abuse |
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So you agree that a transparent system is needed or at least desirable?
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hosh13
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posted: 2013-01-03 10:23:55 (ID: 74454) Report Abuse |
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pete wrote:
Ebay is NOT fair. It might be everything, but not fair. It favors last minute snipers, which I dislike. It favors rich over poors, which I quite dislike. IMO Ebay is the worst of all This seems a strange attitude for someone running a management game. Isn't 50% of the idea of the entire process to save money for the very advantage you claim to dislike? This is a discipline called patience. You save, you wait until you have more money than the other bloke (or are willing to spend more than him), you win the player! 
Everyone has the chance to be rich here (and this is not pro capitalist drivel) - it's a simple matter of patience. Patience is probably the most important discipline in this game. |
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posted: 2013-01-03 10:52:10 (ID: 74458) Report Abuse |
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i still feel this isnt needed in its current guise. player for player/ players transfer yes but not another money option. even limit it to 2 players a season or something. there will always be the cheating element but most teams are big boys and anyone caught cheating just deal with them via the iron fist.
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posted: 2013-01-03 11:16:10 (ID: 74459) Report Abuse |
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pete wrote:
Ebay is NOT fair. It might be everything, but not fair. It favors last minute snipers, which I dislike. It favors rich over poors, which I quite dislike. IMO Ebay is the worst of all This is my final statement for an ebay like bid system. As (I believe) Notsch posted, the decision to create such a system is a political one. I understood th flaws of the current system, which favors the rich, and is a disadvantage for the people not being online 24 hours a day. The new system (might be existing parallel to the old one) should solve at least 1 of that issues, if possible without creating new ones. Ebay is perfectly fair. You bid your max offer and leave it. If someone 'snipes' you then they were willing to bid more than you. That's fair. Any free market system favours rich over poor. That is a fact of life. I don't get the 'anti-rich' feeling we have from so many here. Let people spend it! Don't constrain them. Give them more freedom to spend and they won't be rich for much longer!!! Imho this game should have 1 of the following options: - a totally free market, with free bidding...... or - no market at all - a longer draft, player trades, pick trading, a waiver wire (this would mean no Youth Academy, and the whole of the money side of the game being obliterated). The 2nd option is the NFL, the 1st option is most online games. Anything in between is tinkering. |
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posted: 2013-01-03 11:18:37 (ID: 74462) Report Abuse |
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JonnyP wrote:
Ebay is perfectly fair. You bid your max offer and leave it. If someone 'snipes' you then they were willing to bid more than you. That's fair.  |
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posted: 2013-01-03 11:39:55 (ID: 74465) Report Abuse |
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I think the fairest system would ba a blind bidding system, which a controlling function, that would make cheating nearly impossible.
Every manager can only make one bid in a 3 day period. After 3 days the seller see the three highest bids and can decise, which offer he want to accept. He has to write a comment to the trade, which will be visible for all managers after the trade. The comments can be: I accepted the highest bid, because I wanted only the money. OR I accepted the second highest bid, because the highest bidding team has to much good players. .... After the transfer all managers can see all bid, like the actual bidding history. If you might to see a cheating attemp you can hit an "cheating report button" with a comment. The Admins can check the transfer and can deside if there was something strange (similar IP, known friendship between the traders, ...). If the transfer was an obvious cheating attempt the trade will be redone and both traders get a ban for all transfer options. The ban could be for some weeks, a full season or for ever. If a manager push allways the cheating report button, than the Admins can block the button for this manager. |
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posted: 2013-01-03 11:49:41 (ID: 74466) Report Abuse |
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I like the idea of Buffy the Raggamuffin-Slayer. Except one part:
Buffalo wrote:
The Admins can check the transfer and can deside if there was something strange (similar IP, known friendship between the traders, ...). As far as I know, the IP-thing can and is done by the software. But to check if two players know and like each other would be fulltime job... And just because we had a beer together means we can't trade players? I'd be careful who I talk to in the forums if it hinders my trades... Or will the admins check the PMs too? Consindering Petes upbringing in the east... Yeah, okay: I'll flag myself  |
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