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CaptAwesome
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posted: 2013-02-07 11:57:07 (ID: 81346) Report Abuse |
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At first glance I thought this change was truely awesome. Then I noticed the quality and the amount of players on the market and I got worried. We dont want the market to get flooded by 8 such players each day. On the other hand if there are taken from bot drafts and teams that left we are bound to run out of 50/50 players soon enough. I think we should just wait and see what happens.
Edit: Maybe I will become more active on the TM again. Sitting on 993M and dont feel like I have too much since I can see myself spending most of that in no time at all. Last edited on 2013-02-07 11:58:33 by CaptAwesome |
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Toni Gorilla
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posted: 2013-02-07 12:04:55 (ID: 81347) Report Abuse |
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CaptAwesome wrote:
I think we should just wait and see what happens. I wanna know how rich you are! |
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Firenze
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posted: 2013-02-07 12:05:50 (ID: 81348) Report Abuse |
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Toni Gorilla wrote:
CaptAwesome wrote:
I think we should just wait and see what happens. I wanna know how rich you are! 993m, see previous page |
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Brainburned
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posted: 2013-02-07 12:05:50 (ID: 81349) Report Abuse |
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CaptAwesome wrote:
Edit: Maybe I will become more active on the TM again. Sitting on 993M and dont feel like I have too much since I can see myself spending most of that in no time at all.  |
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Nogard
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posted: 2013-02-07 12:12:41 (ID: 81350) Report Abuse |
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Newgate my friend, I see we think in the same way.
Some time ago I asked what are Monster player for you. I think the most guys mean that are these 50/50 in strength and speed players. Maybe they are right cause these caps are hidden and on 50/50 they are well known at the best a player can reach. How much money could teams have? I think the Aston Rovers have the most money cause of their transfer action. (+827M). How much have team who never spend money in the TM? I think sth around 500-600M. The old and active guys on the TM who bought and sold players? maybe 300-400M. First of all these "monsters" never all go to 1 team. You definitely have to pay at the moment between 150 and 200M for such a player, maybe even more. That means the guys who never spend money in the TM could buy around max 3-4 guys until they have no money in the bank. on TM active teams maybe could buy max 2 players until they run out of money. You definitely need 22 players at minimum and then you need too much luck with injuries. Would 2 players really have such a big effect? I don´t think so. @ Tarjan my friend the DL you posted. Is he really a monster? yes he has 50/50 physicals and maybe he will be a monster in the future. But for the most older teams which players have non physicals in the 30s or even 40s this player wouldnt be a starter for around 2-3 seasons. his physicals are brilliant but the other skills are even lower than a draftplayer has. FW is 16,5 tackling 21 vision 23. I scouted last year some old teams and they have much better players. |
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KingOfTh3Hil
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posted: 2013-02-07 12:18:48 (ID: 81351) Report Abuse |
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Got 762 milions....
but i will not use them on these supermen, its just ridiculus in putting that kind of players into the game, and the news about it reached the community last evening... and pete who usually diskussed changes now made one without... Adding existing draft-qualitied players would be better, since those is already here, just put up more of them in the FA... maybe 10-20 each day and pete would get the same result, but more then just the elites would be able to get them, More "ordinary" players for more mediocre price is the way to go in my eyes, AND why would this changes be made even before we know the result in high salary teams????? We dont know how teams will be like in 5 seasons, but my team is close since im having players with 40-48 in skills.. The reason why there is to much money in the first place is becourse the staidium was building up to fast, it should have been more expensive and more timeconsuming (+3 seasons) to have it fully build. Cuz you got max stadium with no increase of salaries in beginning, thus earning alot! Damn.... |
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KevinM2
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posted: 2013-02-07 12:19:54 (ID: 81352) Report Abuse |
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I personally think the only way this could work for the benefit of everyone, and RZA in general, is by limiting in some way the ability of the Elite teams to snap all of these players off the market.
My suggestion of a Purchase Cap (or as Pete called it, a Transfer Cap) would achieve this. By capping the amount ALL teams are permitted to spend per season on transfers, that immediately... a) Allows all teams to be competitive for the new stars b) Brings down players values overnight, as no-one will be a allowed to bid crazy amounts of money ($150+mill) for a single player, as that would (hopefully) be way above a teams Transfer Cap c) What about removing Mega amounts of cash from the game, you might ask. Well the Transfer Cap system doesn't remove this Mega cash from the game, per se, but what it does do is make excessively large amounts of cash effectively worth less (I say worth less, but I mean for buying players...obviously this excess money would be used to fuel a team's rising salary bill, but it wouldn't over inflate the Transfer Market). For example, a team with $500+mil in the bank but with a transfer cap of (say) $30mil for example, after taking out player salaries, coaches wages etc, any excess left would in effect be almost worthless in the Transfer Market). So there'd come a point n the game where no matter how much money you had, it wouldn't advantage you at all. This would have the effect of devaluing very large bank account balances, yet leaving the smaller to medium balances unaffected....This, if I understand Pete correctly, is one of the fundamental objectives of the new TM system he has introduced, and I believe coupling the new TM system with a Transfer Cap would make this wholly workable across all teams and all divisions. I look forward to seeing Pete's results of his maths calculations in regards to a Transfer Cap. Last edited on 2013-02-07 12:40:15 by KevinM2 |
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Buffalo
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posted: 2013-02-07 12:25:11 (ID: 81356) Report Abuse |
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Nogard wrote:
First of all these "monsters" never all go to 1 team. You definitely have to pay at the moment between 150 and 200M for such a player, maybe even more. That means the guys who never spend money in the TM could buy around max 3-4 guys until they have no money in the bank. on TM active teams maybe could buy max 2 players until they run out of money. I highlighted the key word. 150-200 Mio$ will be the actual prize. Let's say 30-40 goldies will be on the TM every week. (-> ~5 Billion $ away). Normally in a few weeks the prizes must go down for these players. So they will go for 60-100 Mio$. Later for ~50 Mio$? Than an old team, sitting still on his huge bankroll might get 6-10 great players. |
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notsch
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posted: 2013-02-07 12:29:56 (ID: 81358) Report Abuse |
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1) these new players are IMO way too good.
pete wrote:
These players were created during the draft, or were owned by teams that gone bot. We do not GENERATE them each morning, I am not Frankenstein... So, this means the quality of the FA players will go down? I mean, if they are not new-generated, the number of these 'gold'-players has to be limited. This means in a second step, that at some point you have to generate new players... 2) this will definitely kill the TM (at least on a short time-scale) for all selling managers. No one will buy good but old/low capped players, since no one knows how the TM will develop. 3) In its current state it will make the draft totally unimportant (those players i saw on the market are better than 98 % of the draft players)...and their price will go down heavily within the next weeks. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Actually, i can´t tell if this is in general a good or a bad move...for me it is worst case 
It means i lost tons of money since i bought a guy on sunday für 160 mio $, which i probably would have gotten way cheaper in 2-4 weeks. Secondly I wanted to sell some good veteran players starting tonight...i don´t think i would get any money out of them now since everyone will save there money now for those 'gold' players or whatever...no one will make a move on the tm now unless it is about those players 
Well, but it is not about me...so we will see...i think it is adjustable 
I have around 250 million $ on my account... plus the -514 mio $ i "earned" on the TM i guess the starting teams who saved their money and did nothing on the TM should have around 750-800 mio $ by now... 
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At least it is nice to see that finally not 100% of the arguers
think this is the worst we could have done to the game.
@Tarjan and others: just calm down a bit, see what happens and then join the discussion again, free of rage
@Kevin(M2): yes, hopefully I can come up with a good number...we will see @Sisko and the slowbuilders guild: Dont change your style of working on your team too fast. It might be compelling to just buy talent, but once more you will miss the cash you put on the TM for "gold" later, and then there is no way the get it back. @the haves and the have more...I am one of them, having nearly 500m on my account, and payed only 75m for a kicker on the TM lately, as SH8888 can tell you My calculations say I am short before having trouble. Yes, I can survive 2 or 3 seasons overspending on my team, but will that help? No. For sure I can afford having 5 or 7 of these players...will it help me? Not short term, and in no way long term.
@those thining it was wrong to put such qwuality out on the market in midseason: once more and for the last time: I did not create them, they were in the database already, and we have a good number of such players in there. So the chance they would have joined the TM automatically was there. All I did was to raise that chance. Why the hell I should have to wait until season rollover?? If we all could calm down a bit I am more than happy to discuss with you further, but if we stick with these style as it was 2 or 3 pages back, I see no reason to join the discussion again, since I actually told you all about the objectives, the goal, the details, and the possible future. |
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