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| posted: 2013-05-12 10:24:56 (ID: 95510) Report Abuse | |
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For INT on O or D: You could INT interpret in 2 ways...and yes, it overlaps with VIS and POS a bit. But the question for the O is: I am "smart" enough to follow the rules the QB has given in the huddle? And for D it is: I am "smart" enough to see how the play evolves, what the other side has in mind?
However, again there is no clear difference between INT, VIS and POS...If the game and the defined most possible skill progress would allow me to have 50 INT, 50 VIS, 50 POS players...I would probably prefer them over super high physicals..but that's me only. Why? If the player is a "dumbo" for tactics, he will never e "in reach" to use his tackling or strength as example...Yes, a bit of black & white here |
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posted: 2013-05-12 17:03:24 (ID: 95529) Report Abuse |
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pete wrote:
But the question for the O is: I am "smart" enough to follow the rules the QB has given in the huddle? so what happens when my team runs a no-huddle? 
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posted: 2013-05-12 17:40:41 (ID: 95534) Report Abuse |
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I apologize for posting this pic again, but it does crease me up.
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posted: 2013-05-13 10:05:55 (ID: 95588) Report Abuse |
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pete wrote:
For INT on O or D: You could INT interpret in 2 ways...and yes, it overlaps with VIS and POS a bit. But the question for the O is: I am "smart" enough to follow the rules the QB has given in the huddle? And for D it is: I am "smart" enough to see how the play evolves, what the other side has in mind? However, again there is no clear difference between INT, VIS and POS...If the game and the defined most possible skill progress would allow me to have 50 INT, 50 VIS, 50 POS players...I would probably prefer them over super high physicals..but that's me only. Why? If the player is a "dumbo" for tactics, he will never e "in reach" to use his tackling or strength as example...Yes, a bit of black & white here To me, INT speaks to a general understanding of the game, and an ability to think things through - it is what it is, in other words. POS should be an understanding of the playbook, and whether you know where you're expected to be, and when you're expected to be there. VIS is an ability to "see" what's happening outside your immediate zone of influence (or playbook position), and to be able to respond to it. So I see VIS as a key attribute for FS and MLB, for example. Of course, high mental attributes are not too much help if your physical attributes aren't good enough to get a player to a place where they can impact the play to the benefit of the team... |
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| posted: 2013-05-13 10:32:52 (ID: 95593) Report Abuse | |
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posted: 2013-05-22 15:41:55 (ID: 96564) Report Abuse |
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Question: when is a player for you a DT, a DE, MLB, OLB, CB, SS, FS?
Let´s say his technical and tactical skills are good for every defense position. When would maybe a MLB becomes an OLB or an other position? I think here especially about strength, speed, Intelligence and maybe teamwork. would a e.g. 48 strength 40 Int player stay at MLB or become a DT? would a 45 str 49 speed 45 Int guy be an OLB? or maybe better an DE or would he be a DB in your mind? I saw there such a question in the rookie area about "what to do with this guy" and I couldnt really answer this question for myself. would I put him at OLB, MLB, DE or maybe CB? I dont know. What do you think? |
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posted: 2013-05-22 15:51:04 (ID: 96567) Report Abuse |
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Nogard wrote:
Question: when is a player for you a DT, a DE, MLB, OLB, CB, SS, FS? Let´s say his technical and tactical skills are good for every defense position. When would maybe a MLB becomes an OLB or an other position? I think here especially about strength, speed, Intelligence and maybe teamwork. would a e.g. 48 strength 40 Int player stay at MLB or become a DT? would a 45 str 49 speed 45 Int guy be an OLB? or maybe better an DE or would he be a DB in your mind? I saw there such a question in the rookie area about "what to do with this guy" and I couldnt really answer this question for myself. would I put him at OLB, MLB, DE or maybe CB? I dont know. What do you think? I opened this thread and I am still very much pondering what is right. I am still looking for answers for all the questions you just asked. I am considering reorganizing my entire defense, as I think could get more out of them, but I'm simply not sure how to play my players so I get the most out of them. So far I like Sfniners guide above combined with your needs. I just tried to do a little analysis of my needs in the what to do thread. Maybe it belongs here, but any input would be welcome. |
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posted: 2013-05-22 15:56:31 (ID: 96568) Report Abuse |
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yeah my guide is similar to sfniners and I asked some season ago some managers about their thoughts of physical skills on defense position for our german board. I made the average of the named skills and pronaunced it at the german board.
the problem is theses are the lowest skills it is mostly a 40+ or 45+. your guy has these numbers on speed and strength for every defense position cause both are 45+. And that are the cases I don´t know about too. cause if your 46 str 49 sp 50 int guy is a CB, what should be the skills then for an MLB? 49 str 46 sp? but than he is maybe better as a DE and so on... Last edited on 2013-05-22 15:58:50 by Nogard |
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Lamumia
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posted: 2013-05-22 16:04:24 (ID: 96570) Report Abuse |
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Nogard wrote:
yeah my guide is similar to sfniners and I asked some season ago some managers about their thoughts of physical skills on defense position for our german board. I made the average of the named skills and pronaunced it at the german board. the problem is theses are the lowest skills it is mostly a 40+ or 45+. your guy has these numbers on speed and strength for every defense position cause both are 45+. And that are the cases I don´t know about too. cause if your 46 str 49 sp 50 int guy is a CB, what should be the skills then for an MLB? 49 str 46 sp? but than he is maybe better as a DE and so on... Just my thoughts, it seem like we need some outside input  |
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posted: 2013-05-22 22:16:16 (ID: 96593) Report Abuse |
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Nogard wrote:
yeah my guide is similar to sfniners and I asked some season ago some managers about their thoughts of physical skills on defense position for our german board. I made the average of the named skills and pronaunced it at the german board. the problem is theses are the lowest skills it is mostly a 40+ or 45+. your guy has these numbers on speed and strength for every defense position cause both are 45+. And that are the cases I don´t know about too. cause if your 46 str 49 sp 50 int guy is a CB, what should be the skills then for an MLB? 49 str 46 sp? but than he is maybe better as a DE and so on... It depends what you want your defense to do really. There is other stuff to consider than just what is his best position. Like what positions do you want to give priority to, what your coaches are like and so on. Eg - DE is the only position that give you pass rush so I've opted to put four guys there who were drafted so have high skills and who have between 96 and 99 in str/sp. They may suit other positions slightly more but was the direction I went in so DE took priority rightly or wrongly. Likewise I have a 90% LB coach and a 60% CB coach. Therefore ifs debatable whether a guy should be a LB or a CB then I'd tend to put the young guy at LB to take advantage of the coach and the extra training and the older guy at CB. |
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