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posted: 2014-07-30 23:09:45 (ID: 100039090) Report Abuse
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
i think the one thing that we can all agree on, regardless of the actions taken, is that the hamas regime benefits nobody

they are a militant group who will stop at nothing, including the destruction of their own innocent citizens, to kill jews and israelis

i urge somebody to come up with any argument asserting hamas as anything but terrorists
once again this is not the palestinians, only hamas


Just ask people from Palestine and people from Israel what they think.
What would you do ?
What would you choose : war or peace ?


thats part of the problem
both sides right now are overwhelmingly in favor of war

hamas wants blockades lifted, which israel will never do

israel wants to stay in there, destroy the tunnels, and then leave


People fight, people die.
I'm really convinced that accusing one side or the other definitely does not bring any solution.
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stealyourface
posted: 2014-07-30 23:11:24 (ID: 100039091) Report Abuse
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
i think the one thing that we can all agree on, regardless of the actions taken, is that the hamas regime benefits nobody

they are a militant group who will stop at nothing, including the destruction of their own innocent citizens, to kill jews and israelis

i urge somebody to come up with any argument asserting hamas as anything but terrorists
once again this is not the palestinians, only hamas


Just ask people from Palestine and people from Israel what they think.
What would you do ?
What would you choose : war or peace ?


thats part of the problem
both sides right now are overwhelmingly in favor of war

hamas wants blockades lifted, which israel will never do

israel wants to stay in there, destroy the tunnels, and then leave


People fight, people die.
I'm really convinced that accusing one side or the other definitely does not bring any solution.


the accusations dont
but using facts to determine a course of action might
anyway, by this time, im pretty sure everybody knows where i lie on this issue
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Drogon
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posted: 2014-07-30 23:15:21 (ID: 100039092) Report Abuse
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
i think the one thing that we can all agree on, regardless of the actions taken, is that the hamas regime benefits nobody

they are a militant group who will stop at nothing, including the destruction of their own innocent citizens, to kill jews and israelis

i urge somebody to come up with any argument asserting hamas as anything but terrorists
once again this is not the palestinians, only hamas


Just ask people from Palestine and people from Israel what they think.
What would you do ?
What would you choose : war or peace ?


thats part of the problem
both sides right now are overwhelmingly in favor of war

hamas wants blockades lifted, which israel will never do

israel wants to stay in there, destroy the tunnels, and then leave


People fight, people die.
I'm really convinced that accusing one side or the other definitely does not bring any solution.


the accusations dont
but using facts to determine a course of action might
anyway, by this time, im pretty sure everybody knows where i lie on this issue

Who knows where the truth is ?
As i said before, ask both sides and choose : war or peace.
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stealyourface
posted: 2014-07-30 23:16:59 (ID: 100039093) Report Abuse
as i said before, if right now you go to both sides, they will choose war
hamas until blockades are lifted
and israel until tunnels are destroyed
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Drogon
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posted: 2014-07-30 23:26:43 (ID: 100039095) Report Abuse
stealyourface wrote:
as i said before, if right now you go to both sides, they will choose war
hamas until blockades are lifted
and israel until tunnels are destroyed

First, hamas is not a nation.
Hamas said that...
Israel said that...
Of course, they both say that... Looks like a never ending story...
People fight, people die.





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stealyourface
posted: 2014-07-30 23:32:35 (ID: 100039096) Report Abuse
civilian casualties have been a part of warfare for a long time
it sucks, its terrible, its tragic, but its there
it just sucks that the palestinian death toll rises just because hamas chooses to fire from hospitals, schools, etc.

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posted: 2014-07-30 23:36:33 (ID: 100039097) Report Abuse
stealyourface wrote:
because hamas chooses to fire from hospitals, schools, etc.


I see...
Now, can you ask what people from Palestine think ?

Once again :
I'm really convinced that accusing one side or the other definitely does not bring any solution.
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posted: 2014-07-30 23:37:22 (ID: 100039098) Report Abuse
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
because hamas chooses to fire from hospitals, schools, etc.


I see...
Now, can you ask what people from Palestine think ?

Once again :
I'm really convinced that accusing one side or the other definitely does not bring any solution.

think about what?
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JonnyP
posted: 2014-07-30 23:41:38 (ID: 100039099) Report Abuse
It's not as simple as that, especially with today's latest news.

A school was hit today. It was a designated UN shelter for refugees. Israel said they were aiming for Hamas fighters who had fired from near the school - not the from school itself, merely near. Crucially, the reports do not say exactly how near.

The UN had repeatedly told Israel the school was being used to shelter refugees, they still bombed the area.

That's irresponsible in the extreme. If Israel are to get any support in this conflict they need to show restraint.

That doesn't excuse Hamas's actions though - they will be fully aware of the outcry this atrocity will cause, and will certainly be doing it on purpose.

Both sides deserve nothing but contempt.
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posted: 2014-07-30 23:44:01 (ID: 100039100) Report Abuse
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
because hamas chooses to fire from hospitals, schools, etc.


I see...
Now, can you ask what people from Palestine think ?

Once again :
I'm really convinced that accusing one side or the other definitely does not bring any solution.

think about what?



Nothing more than what i've already repeated.
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