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stealyourface
posted: 2014-07-30 23:44:21 (ID: 100039102) Report Abuse
JonnyP wrote:
It's not as simple as that, especially with today's latest news.

A school was hit today. It was a designated UN shelter for refugees. Israel said they were aiming for Hamas fighters who had fired from near the school - not the from school itself, merely near. Crucially, the reports do not say exactly how near.

The UN had repeatedly told Israel the school was being used to shelter refugees, they still bombed the area.

That's irresponsible in the extreme. If Israel are to get any support in this conflict they need to show restraint.

That doesn't excuse Hamas's actions though - they will be fully aware of the outcry this atrocity will cause, and will certainly be doing it on purpose.

Both sides deserve nothing but contempt.

it just pains me to think that hamas intentionally puts its civilians in jeopardy in order to use it as propaganda
life is more precious than that
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stealyourface
posted: 2014-07-30 23:46:31 (ID: 100039103) Report Abuse
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
because hamas chooses to fire from hospitals, schools, etc.


I see...
Now, can you ask what people from Palestine think ?

Once again :
I'm really convinced that accusing one side or the other definitely does not bring any solution.

think about what?



Nothing more than what i've already repeated.

if im an israeli, i want to make sure those tunnels are destroyed, so i am not being threatened by the possibility of a major terrorist attack

if im a palestinian, i see two possibilities
1. seek revenge on israel prolonging the war

or hopefully..
2. rally enough palestinians to overthrow hamas

Last edited on 2014-07-30 23:48:34 by stealyourface

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posted: 2014-07-31 00:06:51 (ID: 100039107) Report Abuse
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
because hamas chooses to fire from hospitals, schools, etc.


I see...
Now, can you ask what people from Palestine think ?

Once again :
I'm really convinced that accusing one side or the other definitely does not bring any solution.

think about what?



Nothing more than what i've already repeated.

if im an israeli, i want to make sure those tunnels are destroyed, so i am not being threatened by the possibility of a major terrorist attack

if im a palestinian, i see two possibilities
1. seek revenge on israel prolonging the war

or hopefully..
2. rally enough palestinians to overthrow hamas


May i suggest a third possibility ?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident : that all men are created equal ; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unaliable rights ; that among these are LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS"
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stealyourface
posted: 2014-07-31 00:08:29 (ID: 100039108) Report Abuse
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
because hamas chooses to fire from hospitals, schools, etc.


I see...
Now, can you ask what people from Palestine think ?

Once again :
I'm really convinced that accusing one side or the other definitely does not bring any solution.

think about what?



Nothing more than what i've already repeated.

if im an israeli, i want to make sure those tunnels are destroyed, so i am not being threatened by the possibility of a major terrorist attack

if im a palestinian, i see two possibilities
1. seek revenge on israel prolonging the war

or hopefully..
2. rally enough palestinians to overthrow hamas


May i suggest a third possibility ?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident : that all men are created equal ; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unaliable rights ; that among these are LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS"


obviously that would be the best
but as long as hamas is in power in gaza, they will continue to both terrorize its citizens and israel
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Drogon
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posted: 2014-07-31 00:13:27 (ID: 100039109) Report Abuse
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
because hamas chooses to fire from hospitals, schools, etc.


I see...
Now, can you ask what people from Palestine think ?

Once again :
I'm really convinced that accusing one side or the other definitely does not bring any solution.

think about what?



Nothing more than what i've already repeated.

if im an israeli, i want to make sure those tunnels are destroyed, so i am not being threatened by the possibility of a major terrorist attack

if im a palestinian, i see two possibilities
1. seek revenge on israel prolonging the war

or hopefully..
2. rally enough palestinians to overthrow hamas


May i suggest a third possibility ?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident : that all men are created equal ; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unaliable rights ; that among these are LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS"


obviously that would be the best
but as long as hamas is in power in gaza, they will continue to both terrorize its citizens and israel


But you still keep accusing one side only, right or wrong ?
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stealyourface
posted: 2014-07-31 00:17:32 (ID: 100039110) Report Abuse
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
because hamas chooses to fire from hospitals, schools, etc.


I see...
Now, can you ask what people from Palestine think ?

Once again :
I'm really convinced that accusing one side or the other definitely does not bring any solution.

think about what?



Nothing more than what i've already repeated.

if im an israeli, i want to make sure those tunnels are destroyed, so i am not being threatened by the possibility of a major terrorist attack

if im a palestinian, i see two possibilities
1. seek revenge on israel prolonging the war

or hopefully..
2. rally enough palestinians to overthrow hamas


May i suggest a third possibility ?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident : that all men are created equal ; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unaliable rights ; that among these are LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS"


obviously that would be the best
but as long as hamas is in power in gaza, they will continue to both terrorize its citizens and israel




But you still keep accusing one side only, right or wrong ?


partially correct
i am accusing hamas of this mess, not the palestians
so its more like im accusing the 3% of the one side
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posted: 2014-07-31 00:26:18 (ID: 100039112) Report Abuse
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
because hamas chooses to fire from hospitals, schools, etc.


I see...
Now, can you ask what people from Palestine think ?

Once again :
I'm really convinced that accusing one side or the other definitely does not bring any solution.

think about what?



Nothing more than what i've already repeated.

if im an israeli, i want to make sure those tunnels are destroyed, so i am not being threatened by the possibility of a major terrorist attack

if im a palestinian, i see two possibilities
1. seek revenge on israel prolonging the war

or hopefully..
2. rally enough palestinians to overthrow hamas


May i suggest a third possibility ?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident : that all men are created equal ; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unaliable rights ; that among these are LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS"


obviously that would be the best
but as long as hamas is in power in gaza, they will continue to both terrorize its citizens and israel




But you still keep accusing one side only, right or wrong ?


partially correct
i am accusing hamas of this mess, not the palestians
so its more like im accusing the 3% of the one side


Next time (maybe...) we'll try to find a solution without any accusasion.
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stealyourface
posted: 2014-07-31 00:33:57 (ID: 100039113) Report Abuse
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:
because hamas chooses to fire from hospitals, schools, etc.


I see...
Now, can you ask what people from Palestine think ?

Once again :
I'm really convinced that accusing one side or the other definitely does not bring any solution.

think about what?



Nothing more than what i've already repeated.

if im an israeli, i want to make sure those tunnels are destroyed, so i am not being threatened by the possibility of a major terrorist attack

if im a palestinian, i see two possibilities
1. seek revenge on israel prolonging the war

or hopefully..
2. rally enough palestinians to overthrow hamas


May i suggest a third possibility ?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident : that all men are created equal ; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unaliable rights ; that among these are LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS"


obviously that would be the best
but as long as hamas is in power in gaza, they will continue to both terrorize its citizens and israel




But you still keep accusing one side only, right or wrong ?


partially correct
i am accusing hamas of this mess, not the palestians
so its more like im accusing the 3% of the one side


Next time (maybe...) we'll try to find a solution without any accusasion.

im not trying to be accusatory but the facts are all there
every humanitarian cease fire has been either rejected or broken by
hamas
until hamas is identified as the problem, no solution can be made

to find a solution you first have to diagnose the issue
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posted: 2014-07-31 00:42:52 (ID: 100039114) Report Abuse
stealyourface wrote:im not trying to be accusatory


Not trying indeed, just succeeded.
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stealyourface
posted: 2014-07-31 00:49:31 (ID: 100039115) Report Abuse
Drogon wrote:
stealyourface wrote:im not trying to be accusatory


Not trying indeed, just succeeded.

im going to make this clear again
the only organization i have anything against is hamas
they are terrorists

i amend my previous statement, im not trying to accuse the palestinians, just hamas
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