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posted: 2013-12-24 12:08:41 (ID: 100017519) Report Abuse
Just for the german WC...

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/korruption-bei-der-fifa-wie-deutschland-die-wm-bekam-1.1413203

German only...I am sure if you Google for "Charles Dempsey" you will find more...

However...
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posted: 2013-12-24 12:12:50 (ID: 100017520) Report Abuse
Haha
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posted: 2013-12-24 12:23:36 (ID: 100017521) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Just for the german WC...

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/korruption-bei-der-fifa-wie-deutschland-die-wm-bekam-1.1413203

German only...I am sure if you Google for "Charles Dempsey" you will find more...

However...


Just read a bit about that (not the article you linked though as I unfortunately don't speak any German).

But my point wasn't that there was 0 corruption in Western Countries, just that it wasn't as rampant.

Here's the corruption list I was talking about, Germany ranks 12th least corrupt country... Greece is 80th... Qatar is surprisingly 28th though.
http://www.transparency.org/cpi2013/results
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posted: 2013-12-24 12:26:18 (ID: 100017522) Report Abuse
More money, more bribes...better ranking

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posted: 2013-12-24 12:26:47 (ID: 100017523) Report Abuse
I am a hopeless case, I know
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posted: 2013-12-24 12:31:40 (ID: 100017524) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
I am a hopeless case, I know


You sound like one of my best friends.

And he called the Snowden case years ago... I used to call him paranoid and laugh when he was saying the US govt was listening to every phone call, reading every email... Well, it turns out the NSA was doing just that so he was 100% right. Since then I'm more willing to listen to his theories (and those of other people, like yours here) to be honest but there's still a part of me telling me that everything can't possibly be that bad so maybe I'm a gullible idealist and you two are more cynical but correct
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posted: 2013-12-24 12:33:15 (ID: 100017525) Report Abuse
The world is F&*%ed!

Merry Christmas
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posted: 2013-12-24 12:37:15 (ID: 100017527) Report Abuse
Oh, at the moment I am reading this: http://www.heise.de/tp/ebook/ebook_10.html

You have to get paranoid when you read the stories on how the CIA and cold warriors acted the last 70 years and more...some might say this is a book full of conspiracy...but the writer links to official sources like the CIA world fact book...his conclusions sound good and reasonable...and the stories are well known but without the background given in the book. I can strongly recommend it!

I strongly believe the world is more f*cked up behind the scenes than we all are able to think...and no, this is not the level of "the NASA was never on the Moon" or "9/11 was an Inside job"...It is amazing what "haves" do to "have more"...
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posted: 2013-12-24 12:37:33 (ID: 100017528) Report Abuse
Meitheisman wrote:
The world is F&*%ed!

Merry Christmas


Yours, Grinch
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posted: 2013-12-24 12:44:05 (ID: 100017529) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Oh, at the moment I am reading this: http://www.heise.de/tp/ebook/ebook_10.html

You have to get paranoid when you read the stories on how the CIA and cold warriors acted the last 70 years and more...some might say this is a book full of conspiracy...but the writer links to official sources like the CIA world fact book...his conclusions sound good and reasonable...and the stories are well known but without the background given in the book. I can strongly recommend it!

I strongly believe the world is more f*cked up behind the scenes than we all are able to think...and no, this is not the level of "the NASA was never on the Moon" or "9/11 was an Inside job"...It is amazing what "haves" do to "have more"...


Seems interesting yeah but I can only find German links and google translate is clearly not the best translator ever
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