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| posted: 2013-12-24 12:47:14 (ID: 100017530) Report Abuse | |
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http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/document_conversions/17/19970901.pdf
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| posted: 2013-12-24 12:54:08 (ID: 100017531) Report Abuse | |
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The linked document tells the story about the most dangerous situation during the cold war, and no, it was not the Cuba crisis...The "intelligence" services of the western hemisphere just had no idea how far they had driven the whole thing, and how nervous the Russians were at that moment. It is also connected to the provocative shot down of the KAL007 airline, which was forced by the US intelligence likely...
Very interesting read, and it gives some good insights that the Russians aren't the evil in persona...The US and UK military alone violated east german airspace more than 25,000 times during the 40 years the GDR existed, and this does not include regular flights or even the help by the airbridge for western Berlin...and these are confirmed facts... Cannot wait to see the 50 / 75 years passing by to read the documents about this era, and hopefully I am still alive at that moment...I guess it will be a "nice surprise"... |
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| posted: 2013-12-24 12:55:46 (ID: 100017532) Report Abuse | |
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and sorry for being so offtopic!
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posted: 2013-12-24 13:07:15 (ID: 100017533) Report Abuse |
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I've only read the summary so far but it doesn't surprise me one bit in the context of the cold war. I wouldn't be very surprised to find out that we're doing the same thing with terrorism today. By "we" I mean the Western World, not just the US. The Patriot Act was a prime example of that but since Snowden came out with all these documents I'm convinced that virtually every govt abuses its power to control its population in a more effective manner. Journalists are getting arrested and their hard drives are being seized left and right, that's an appalling invasion of privacy and limitation of free speech right there.
That being said I'd still rather be a journalist in France than in China, and I'm currently in China so I'd better watch what I'm typing  |
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| posted: 2013-12-24 13:10:23 (ID: 100017534) Report Abuse | |
Enable the Bot blocker, not to lose your team when being arrested  |
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posted: 2013-12-24 13:10:29 (ID: 100017535) Report Abuse |
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pete wrote:
and sorry for being so offtopic! I guess I should apologize too for helping you derail the thread but it's a very interesting conversation to me and it's your website so we have a good excuse |
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| posted: 2013-12-24 17:49:55 (ID: 100017573) Report Abuse | |
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Meitheisman wrote:
LA, Salt Lake and Atlanta all reported a profit. Canada's also pretty transparent and they claim Vancouver broke even. So we're basically back to my point if the Olympics were held in cities with good infrastructures to begin with and with good management they can be profitable. I'm sure on the books they made profits...the problem is that they aren't assuming all the costs of the Olympics. They'll build/improve a stadium for millions of dollars and access only a fraction to the Olympics - - claiming the other portion is for some other local team. Specialty facilities - - like Velodromes - - wouldn't be fully assigned to the cost of the Olympics (because the city can now host cycling event), even though the facility is empty 360 days a year. '84 Los Angeles Olympics was rather unique - - nobody wanted to shoulder the cost and LA stepped up and did so without building much addition infrastucture - - and only doing that was able to avoid huge loses. #/london-olympics-past-venues-los-angeles_57299_600x450.jpg" target="_blank">Pictures: Past Olympic Venues—Rotting, Renovated, Repurposed "Los Angeles didn't really do much building for the Olympics," he said. "The [1976] Olympics in Montreal left a terrible debt burden that they didn't pay off until 2006. Nobody wanted to host until the [International Olympic Committee] said it would guarantee losses." But 1984 Los Angeles Olympics organizer Peter Ueberroth raised millions from corporate sponsors, TV rights, and ticket sales to renovate existing L.A. sports facilities and build only a few new ones to keep costs down. Steve SD Blitz |
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posted: 2013-12-26 05:42:54 (ID: 100017755) Report Abuse |
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So why don't they do that for every Olympics? Only allow cities that wouldn't have to spend billions in stadiums to send their candidacy to the Olympic Committee.
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