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Xeno72
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posted: 2014-01-30 03:55:52 (ID: 100022532) Report Abuse |
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There is a lot of talk about the safety of football players these days, and all these "safety counter-measures" talked about too.
I posted this on my facebook page today, what are your thoughts about putting all players in bubble-wrap (lmao sorry, couldn't help it  ) or let the boys play?
"I may be wrong on this, but I have no choice but to say something about this whole 'concussion' thing with football. While in college, I researched data and found that seven people were killed playing football when it first started. Granted, not nearly as much protection as they have now, but still, point is football was known to be dangerous from the very beginning. With that said, anyone associated with football, i.e. players; coaches; already know the risks involved. I did, as a football player from the fourth grade up until my senior year in hs: It is brutal, it can be dangerous, and I have a permanent back injury because of the game. If I could do it all over again, would I avoid playing football? HELL NO!" |
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Meitheisman
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posted: 2014-01-30 04:59:35 (ID: 100022534) Report Abuse |
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I absolutely love the game but if I had a kid I wouldn't let him play to be honest. Why? Because the answer is in the definition of football... It's a "game" and no game is worth putting your long-term health at risk, especially mental health. The PBS documentary about concussions was absolutely brilliant, I highly recommend it for those who haven't seen it.
League of Denial: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/league-of-denial/ |
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Xeno72
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posted: 2014-01-30 05:56:09 (ID: 100022536) Report Abuse |
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I have profound super-over-the-top respect for your position on this issue Meitheisman!
I guess I come from a different school of thought, much like the gladiators of Rome and our ancient past. I even played a little bit of baseball, threw a pitch, the batter hit the ball and it was a line-drive dead center to my stomach. I was eight years old, and it hurt bad. What did I learn from getting blasted constantly in all my playing of football? I learned how to survive fear. Fear that I wasn't sure if I was better than I thought I was, rather than simply settle for being what I thought I was. I faced this fear and grew from it; it made me strong. I faced the best player (some said I was number one and he was number two, and others said the opposite) in the entire league, last play of the game being a kick return and the coach purposely put me as the last person to stop him (he slipped and fell down) when I was nine. I ran for three touchdowns in a game we were told we wouldn't likely win, and I was more of a man than the opposition's coach (lots to explain here). And was part of a team that to this day still hold youth football records from what I was told by a former teammate five years ago. My ultimate point is that playing football taught me lessons about being a man in ways that perhaps society doesn't. Much like when I coached little-league football, and changed a kid who was afraid to get hit. He caught a pass for a critical two-point conversion, and I can only hope it gave him the inspiration of thought football gave me. I still wouldn't take back my back-pain for playing football no matter what. But I have full appreciation for those that oppose what I think  Last edited on 2014-01-30 06:18:26 by Xeno72 |
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Meitheisman
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posted: 2014-01-30 07:13:12 (ID: 100022545) Report Abuse |
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That's all well and good but there are other ways to learn these things, ways that don't put your mental health at risk.
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Strange
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posted: 2014-01-30 07:44:19 (ID: 100022550) Report Abuse |
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Just watched about 20 min (so far) of the League of denial video. I obviously feel sad for the players who have serious brain damage as a result from playing in the NFL.
Having said that, I dont feel any sorrow to players who join the NFL with the knowledge that they might get brain damage or sustain any life lasting injury. I have zero sorrow. They join with this knowledge and ignore it to make millions of dollars playing a damn game. I slave my ass off for table scraps in comparison, and dont expect anyone to feel sorry for me. Human greed and a desire for prominence and recognition , I feel, plays a huge part in this. Last edited on 2014-01-30 07:44:51 by Strange |
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ronko
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posted: 2014-01-30 07:58:17 (ID: 100022552) Report Abuse |
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Shhhh don't tell anybody about the c-word!
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Meitheisman
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posted: 2014-01-30 08:33:33 (ID: 100022559) Report Abuse |
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Strange wrote:
Just watched about 20 min (so far) of the League of denial video. I obviously feel sad for the players who have serious brain damage as a result from playing in the NFL. Having said that, I dont feel any sorrow to players who join the NFL with the knowledge that they might get brain damage or sustain any life lasting injury. I have zero sorrow. They join with this knowledge and ignore it to make millions of dollars playing a damn game. I slave my ass off for table scraps in comparison, and dont expect anyone to feel sorry for me. Human greed and a desire for prominence and recognition , I feel, plays a huge part in this. The main issue to me is not with NFL players but with the literally thousands and thousands of football players who never made a dime and who might suffer serious consequences nonetheless. In League of Denial they talk about a high school kid who's brain showed serious advanced sign of ALS, it's for these people (and their loved ones) that I really feel sorry. |
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Xeno72
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posted: 2014-01-30 14:29:29 (ID: 100022577) Report Abuse |
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Meitheisman wrote:
I guess that's just it. I had no desire to be raised in a bubble where a book, or a video or somebody told me about what it took to learn some lessons of life I learned strictly through playing a rough and tough game.
That's all well and good but there are other ways to learn these things, ways that don't put your mental health at risk. Success always comes with some kind of price. I survived and that is a good thing, and it is horrible that others didn't, this truly sucks. I'm a risk taker, and yes, take chances. But the lessons learned I don't think can be spoken eloquently enough to convince sometimes. |
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Hunter550
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posted: 2014-01-30 15:36:49 (ID: 100022581) Report Abuse |
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Meitheisman wrote:
Strange wrote:
Just watched about 20 min (so far) of the League of denial video. I obviously feel sad for the players who have serious brain damage as a result from playing in the NFL. Having said that, I dont feel any sorrow to players who join the NFL with the knowledge that they might get brain damage or sustain any life lasting injury. I have zero sorrow. They join with this knowledge and ignore it to make millions of dollars playing a damn game. I slave my ass off for table scraps in comparison, and dont expect anyone to feel sorry for me. Human greed and a desire for prominence and recognition , I feel, plays a huge part in this. The main issue to me is not with NFL players but with the literally thousands and thousands of football players who never made a dime and who might suffer serious consequences nonetheless. In League of Denial they talk about a high school kid who's brain showed serious advanced sign of ALS, it's for these people (and their loved ones) that I really feel sorry. Well not everyone plays for future money, some just play for the love of the game, I play for a dream I've had since I was a kid |
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Christy
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posted: 2014-01-30 17:21:50 (ID: 100022589) Report Abuse |
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Xeno72 wrote:
Meitheisman wrote:
I guess that's just it. I had no desire to be raised in a bubble where a book, or a video or somebody told me about what it took to learn some lessons of life I learned strictly through playing a rough and tough game.
That's all well and good but there are other ways to learn these things, ways that don't put your mental health at risk. Success always comes with some kind of price. I survived and that is a good thing, and it is horrible that others didn't, this truly sucks. I'm a risk taker, and yes, take chances. But the lessons learned I don't think can be spoken eloquently enough to convince sometimes. American football isn't the only way to get life lessons apart from books. You enjoyed it and that's great. Hopefully the game can be made safer without destroying the spirit too much. If it doesn't it will suffer as parents turn their kids away to soccer camp or basketball camp or whatever to avoid putting little Johnny in more risk than they deemed acceptable. Remember while success always has risk, risk doesn't always imply success if it works out. Playing without a helmet for instance doesn't help you in any way shape or form and just increases the risk. People can find the same fulfillment you found from football in safer sports and that is where kids will end up if too many pro players (yes football players should be looked at as a whole but these are the ones the media will look at) end up with brain damage. |
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