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  Poll: Cause penalty in ticket income for managers abusing their ACs by setting all players to the same position?, Poll closed, votes: 231
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 posted: 2015-05-16 14:49:32 (ID: 100054348) Report Abuse
Some managers set all their playwrs to the same position, like DL, and buy a high skill DL-AC...this way they get the most out of their Coaching stuff, but screw their games because the Out of position penalty. How about the fans dislike it as well, and say

"Hey, we don't wanna see a team full of DLs, we don't buy tickets anymore..."

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McKay93
posted: 2015-05-16 15:07:34 (ID: 100054353) Report Abuse
Since this came out of an YA discussion, what is your plan exactly?
If more then 50% of YA-Players have the same position, reduce Ticket income by 30%?

Just had a quick check, 15 out of 30 Team (2 have <4 Players in YA) in Elite League do have mostly 1 position in YA.

Last edited on 2015-05-16 15:23:26 by McKay93
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DonWilliam
posted: 2015-05-16 15:35:00 (ID: 100054354) Report Abuse
I like the idea and would even propose some additional change:

The experience that players have gathered should suffer a loss when the position is changed. And this loss should be rather severe, if the position is completely different (like changing from offense to defense or vice versa or from LB to QB or something), while it should be only marginal, if let's say a WR changes to TE or a RB changes to FB (i think u get the idea).
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eschaaf
posted: 2015-05-16 15:38:51 (ID: 100054356) Report Abuse
Rather than a penalty on tickets, how about a limit on the # of each position that can be on a roster at any one time? Either a hard limit that you can't go above at all, or a soft limit where if you go past the soft limit everyone at that position's training is less effective. Seems realistic that a coach can only work effectively with so many players at once.

Disclosure: I'm a newbie who doesn't have any ACs yet, so not experienced in this area.
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andrew2scott2
posted: 2015-05-16 15:42:18 (ID: 100054357) Report Abuse
It one thing. To take way income. Because of owner have all depth charted. Players at one postion.
But it other to take income Form owner for having there ya and players not on the depth chart. At one or. Two postions.

So if we are talking about. Depth chart players only. I am all for it.
But if it includes non depth chart players and ya. It a BIG FAT NO NO NO Form me

Last edited on 2015-05-16 15:43:13 by andrew2scott2
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DonWilliam
posted: 2015-05-16 15:43:08 (ID: 100054358) Report Abuse
eschaaf wrote:
Rather than a penalty on tickets, how about a limit on the # of each position that can be on a roster at any one time? Either a hard limit that you can't go above at all, or a soft limit where if you go past the soft limit everyone at that position's training is less effective. Seems realistic that a coach can only work effectively with so many players at once.

Disclosure: I'm a newbie who doesn't have any ACs yet, so not experienced in this area.


Another good idea. Makes a lot of sense to me.

McKay93 wrote:
Since this came out of an YA discussion, what is your plan exactly?
If more then 50% of YA-Players have the same position, reduce Ticket income by 30%?

Just had a quick check, 15 out of 30 Team (2 have <4 Players in YA) in Elite League do have mostly 1 position in YA.


It is just an exploit. I have decided not to do it long ago. Because i just don't want my players in the YA to be all LBs (for example).

But atm. this is the most efficient strategy for the YA...
I think that just sucks.

Last edited on 2015-05-16 15:49:22 by DonWilliam
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Meitheisman
posted: 2015-05-16 16:05:49 (ID: 100054362) Report Abuse
DonWilliam wrote:
eschaaf wrote:
Rather than a penalty on tickets, how about a limit on the # of each position that can be on a roster at any one time? Either a hard limit that you can't go above at all, or a soft limit where if you go past the soft limit everyone at that position's training is less effective. Seems realistic that a coach can only work effectively with so many players at once.

Disclosure: I'm a newbie who doesn't have any ACs yet, so not experienced in this area.


Another good idea. Makes a lot of sense to me.

McKay93 wrote:
Since this came out of an YA discussion, what is your plan exactly?
If more then 50% of YA-Players have the same position, reduce Ticket income by 30%?

Just had a quick check, 15 out of 30 Team (2 have <4 Players in YA) in Elite League do have mostly 1 position in YA.


It is just an exploit. I have decided not to do it long ago. Because i just don't want my players in the YA to be all LBs (for example).

But atm. this is the most efficient strategy for the YA...
I think that just sucks.



The EXP decrease for a positional change (once the player is subject to a penalty) is not a bad idea.



However, for the Youth Academy it makes a lot of sense. In RZA most players in the Youth Academy spend their time training Strength and Speed to find the caps, this is simply physical training so there's no need for a position specific coach for that. Whether you want your WR, QB, DL or K to get stronger doesn't matter, you'll ask your best strength coach to train them. Makes sense in real life and makes sense in the game so I'm fine with that.
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JonnyP
posted: 2015-05-16 16:21:15 (ID: 100054365) Report Abuse
I voted no, not because it's an exploit which should not be changed - it should!... but because there are better ways to discourage it.

Maybe have experience in some way linked to positions played?

For example, my current QB was drafted as a QB, spent several seasons as backup QB, before I switched him to CB to fill a hole.

Then my star QB retired, and I was not able to get a suitable replacement, so I switched the CB back to QB. Under the experience penalty suggestion he would take 2 hits - the second hit for simply returning to his original position (after about 5 seasons as a CB).

So my suggestion - individual positional experience. It might be complicated, but each player would gain experience for their current position - giving them multiple experience stats.

Too complex?

Maybe just making the fans unhappy would be simpler
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BUUURNS
posted: 2015-05-16 16:29:41 (ID: 100054367) Report Abuse
andrew2scott2 wrote:
It one thing. To take way income. Because of owner have all depth charted. Players at one postion.
But it other to take income Form owner for having there ya and players not on the depth chart. At one or. Two postions.

So if we are talking about. Depth chart players only. I am all for it.
But if it includes non depth chart players and ya. It a BIG FAT NO NO NO Form me


same here im all for it if only depth charted players to suffer but not for Y.A
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DonWilliam
posted: 2015-05-16 16:30:33 (ID: 100054368) Report Abuse
JonnyP wrote:
Maybe have experience in some way linked to positions played?


Believe it or not, but that was the original thought behind the idea i posted above.

I just thought it would be more simple for Pete to just add an experience penalty to the already existing hit on morale and TC.
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