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  Poll: Create a tax for seasonal gains of a manager depending on his status and bankroll?, Poll closed, votes: 216
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Yes, as described in your post, Yoda!
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No - dare you to touch my gains...
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I don't care / I don't have gains / It is on Yoda / There is no democracy in this forums, so why do you even ask?
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pete
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posted: 2016-12-29 15:39:29 (ID: 100094556) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
each manager has to pay 10% in his seasonal gains, without any exception. We put this into a bug pot, divide it by the number of human managers, and payback each share to them...


Just the numbers for this

Gains overall 10,964,202,378
Tax (@15% for positive overall gains only) 1,644,630,357
payers 507
receivers 643, $2557746 each

Number of teams really paying, net: 215
Number of teams having a benefit from this: 428

Can't wait to read comments....

I really start liking this one
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McKay93
posted: 2016-12-29 15:43:15 (ID: 100094558) Report Abuse
So you reward managers that don't manage their finances well and tax managers that do it well.
Kind of the opposite of what you said for the past seasons, defending the way the current negative finance penalty works.
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pete
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posted: 2016-12-29 15:44:09 (ID: 100094559) Report Abuse
McKay93 wrote:
WHY?


I ignore people who are screaming at me...so calm down a little, please.

I want to create some kind of NFL-like spread of won money among the owners. So those who earn more should support those earning less. Basically, as it works with public taxes as well.

However, since the mood inside this thread is becoming little more harsh, I will stop discussing this for now...I have a family I love, and some days off...why do I even spend time on thinking about such things, defending *suggestions* (!!!) against people who even don't read fully what I write down, and the more or less selfish "don't touch my money" attempt.

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posted: 2016-12-29 15:49:37 (ID: 100094562) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
McKay93 wrote:
WHY?


I ignore people who are screaming at me...so calm down a little, please.

I want to create some kind of NFL-like spread of won money among the owners. So those who earn more should support those earning less. Basically, as it works with public taxes as well.

However, since the mood inside this thread is becoming little more harsh, I will stop discussing this for now...I have a family I love, and some days off...why do I even spend time on thinking about such things, defending *suggestions* (!!!) against people who even don't read fully what I write down, and the more or less selfish "don't touch my money" attempt.



After just ignoring (or not reading them fully ) the point of 2 of Meitheismans post and the one you just quoted out of context.

The NFL-like spead idea was after my post was posted, so this cannot be the answer here.
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andrew2scott2
posted: 2016-12-29 15:54:43 (ID: 100094563) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
pete wrote:
each manager has to pay 10% in his seasonal gains, without any exception. We put this into a bug pot, divide it by the number of human managers, and payback each share to them...


Just the numbers for this

Gains overall 10,964,202,378
Tax (@15% for positive overall gains only) 1,644,630,357
payers 507
receivers 643, $2557746 each

Number of teams really paying, net: 215
Number of teams having a benefit from this: 428

Can't wait to read comments....

I really start liking this one

Part a is fine by me
Part b needs tweking. So not to pay teams who are spend a a very large amount of money. High wages,crazy player buying ect. Other that I could live with it
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posted: 2016-12-29 15:58:09 (ID: 100094564) Report Abuse
Why? The more managers go "expensive", the less is going into this pot, the less is getting paid, the more these "overspending on purpose" managers have to adapt...
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andrew2scott2
posted: 2016-12-29 16:02:59 (ID: 100094565)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Why? The more managers go "expensive", the less is going into this pot, the less is getting paid, the more these "overspending on purpose" managers have to adapt...

I don't understand.
I just don't the extreme spenders should get any money back.

All other teams are good to get money

Last edited on 2016-12-29 16:03:48 by andrew2scott2

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Firenze
posted: 2016-12-29 16:05:29 (ID: 100094566) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
pete wrote:
each manager has to pay 10% in his seasonal gains, without any exception. We put this into a bug pot, divide it by the number of human managers, and payback each share to them...


Just the numbers for this

Gains overall 10,964,202,378
Tax (@15% for positive overall gains only) 1,644,630,357
payers 507
receivers 643, $2557746 each

Number of teams really paying, net: 215
Number of teams having a benefit from this: 428

Can't wait to read comments....

I really start liking this one


What would it be like if you excluded Top Managers from receiving benefit from this proposal?
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pete
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posted: 2016-12-29 16:12:19 (ID: 100094567)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
Firenze wrote:
What would it be like if you excluded Top Managers from receiving benefit from this proposal?


So top managers pay only, but do not receive?

93 receivers of $17,684,197 each, where the weakest team pays nothing into it, and the strongest team pays still 10 million less than it gets back...

Last edited on 2016-12-29 16:16:32 by pete

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Meitheisman
posted: 2016-12-29 16:21:16 (ID: 100094571) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
pete wrote:
each manager has to pay 10% in his seasonal gains, without any exception. We put this into a bug pot, divide it by the number of human managers, and payback each share to them...


Just the numbers for this

Gains overall 10,964,202,378
Tax (@15% for positive overall gains only) 1,644,630,357
payers 507
receivers 643, $2557746 each

Number of teams really paying, net: 215
Number of teams having a benefit from this: 428

Can't wait to read comments....

I really start liking this one


Just to use my team as an example. I have not made a profit for 7 seasons (overspending a bit on salaries to be more competitive) which means I would receive money from much poorer teams than mine? The more I think about it the more unfair I think this would be but since my team would benefit from this and I've got little time to discuss this I'll stop here. If next time I check this thread I discover that I'll get a few millions more every season I promise I won't complain
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