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| posted: 2017-05-26 15:05:36 (ID: 100105392) Report Abuse | |
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My finances are quite fragile at the moment as I've been trying to keep.going for a few seasons now. I've got a couple of academy players on sale but I will probably sell a decent player to make up the difference. I was too careless in the past and whilst I'd like to back it to the full amount, it's come at the wrong time for me. 25 million is a maybe but not right at the start of the season.
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andrew2scott2
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posted: 2017-05-26 22:47:40 (ID: 100105460) Report Abuse |
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while the media center is for fun at the moment someone please add a little more so we can find the threshold where we don't lose money.
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Skoum
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posted: 2017-05-26 23:46:19 (ID: 100105463) Report Abuse |
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What is the threshold ?
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Rock777
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posted: 2017-05-27 00:03:50 (ID: 100105464) Report Abuse |
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Apparently a little bit higher than 51.6%
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Rock777
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posted: 2017-05-27 00:09:25 (ID: 100105465) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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Yashin wrote:
Rock777 wrote:
Its not to my benefit to give other teams more income since I have over a billion dollars in my bank. 110% return doesn't really gain me anything; it only puts more money in my competition's pockets. EDIT: If I were underhanded, I could have just let you all commit money with the expectation that I would as well. Trying to be nice here in telling you before hand. And I wouldn't assume everyone else will commit either. Being sincere is always appreciated. Having a clear advantage like yours in the league is something that can add another level of perspective. I highlight to you the fact that if you commit the maximum (which is a ridiculous sum for your bank account) you keep the distance with any other full pledger (gaining a small economic advantage on those who don't pledge the max) while ensuring Admirals a decisive competitive advantage above other leagues. You are in a win-win position even if we cannot reach the threshold, because you can afford to lose 30% of 50M$ without going bankrupt. It doesn't really work that way though. The pure delta is meaningless. 10 Million is worth a lot to a team that is paying its team a high salary and cutting its finances close. 10 Million is not worth anything to me. Giving everyone else 10 Million extra cash means I am giving a bunch of my opponents more buying power, while gaining no increase in buying power myself. So its really a lose-lose. I can't profit from the Mediacenter, unless people pay in and don't reach the break even point. So really I should say I will put money in and then renege. I just don't like playing that way, so instead I'm telling you guys up front. Last edited on 2017-05-27 00:10:16 by Rock777 |
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andrew2scott2
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posted: 2017-05-27 03:38:33 (ID: 100105470) Report Abuse |
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Skoum wrote:
What is the threshold ? where we start making a making money as 50% is not it |
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andrew2scott2
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posted: 2017-05-27 03:40:19 (ID: 100105471) Report Abuse |
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Rock777 wrote:
Apparently a little bit higher than 51.6% seems to be at 96% by my math |
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Rod26
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posted: 2017-05-27 04:18:50 (ID: 100105474) Report Abuse |
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Rock777 wrote:
Apparently a little bit higher than 51.6% +1  it must indeed be just a little bit higher than 51.6%
I have put 50 million and in Admiral 1.1, we have just reached 51.6%. I'm supposed to receive 2 million per update: 2x24=48 million just a bit shy to my initial investment. |
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posted: 2017-05-27 09:06:00 (ID: 100105487) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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Rock777 wrote:
Yashin wrote:
Rock777 wrote:
Its not to my benefit to give other teams more income since I have over a billion dollars in my bank. 110% return doesn't really gain me anything; it only puts more money in my competition's pockets. EDIT: If I were underhanded, I could have just let you all commit money with the expectation that I would as well. Trying to be nice here in telling you before hand. And I wouldn't assume everyone else will commit either. Being sincere is always appreciated. Having a clear advantage like yours in the league is something that can add another level of perspective. I highlight to you the fact that if you commit the maximum (which is a ridiculous sum for your bank account) you keep the distance with any other full pledger (gaining a small economic advantage on those who don't pledge the max) while ensuring Admirals a decisive competitive advantage above other leagues. You are in a win-win position even if we cannot reach the threshold, because you can afford to lose 30% of 50M$ without going bankrupt. It doesn't really work that way though. The pure delta is meaningless. 10 Million is worth a lot to a team that is paying its team a high salary and cutting its finances close. 10 Million is not worth anything to me. Giving everyone else 10 Million extra cash means I am giving a bunch of my opponents more buying power, while gaining no increase in buying power myself. So its really a lose-lose. I can't profit from the Mediacenter, unless people pay in and don't reach the break even point. So really I should say I will put money in and then renege. I just don't like playing that way, so instead I'm telling you guys up front. I greatly appreciate that you are honest with us from the beginning on, that shows great sportsmanship. 
Nevertheless I think that you are missing a decisive point: You obstructing the media center to avoid inflation does only work, if you have power over the whole RZA economy, but you only have control over Admirals 1.1 (assuming that you don't have a team with a $1 billion bank account in every league). The 2.x leagues are almost guaranteed to make the max amount of money out of the meadia center and the other 1.1 leagues are far from being as competitive as Admirals, so they will definitely try to make some extra money, to keep up with us. So at the end of the day all you are doing is decreasing the advantage of Admirals 1.1 against teams from other leagues. I'm not sure if my English is good enough to get my point across, so I will also add an example: In the ExampleWorld there are three continents: North America (consisting of Canada and the USA (you)) Europe (consisting of Sweden and Italy) Asia (consisting of China and Japan) Now, every country has a certain amount of money available, from richest to poorest these are: 1. USA $100 2. Sweden $80 3. China $60 4. Canada $50 5. Japan $40 6. Italy $20 Now, as you can see, the US has twice as much money as Canada and is the richest country in the world. But than on one day, world emperor Petus the Great decides to give an additional amount of $100 to every country, providing that it's whole continent wants to get the extra cash. Europe and Asia accept this money and Sweden, Italy, Japan and China get an additional $100. But the US says, that it wants to keep it's advantage over Canada and refuses to accept the deal, so neither the US nor Canada get $100. Now, let's see how the countries rank now, from richest to poorest: 1. Sweden $180 2. China $160 3. Japan $140 4. Italy $120 5. USA $100 6. Canada $50 So, as you can see, the US kept it's advantage and has still twice as much money as Canada, but on the other hand the US is now the second poorest nation with Canada being the poorest. Do you understand what I'm trying to say? When developing a strategy for the media center it is not about working against the teams of your league, but rather about working as a league against the teams of the other leagues. Last edited on 2017-05-27 09:08:52 by Stanford87 |
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posted: 2017-05-27 13:29:06 (ID: 100105522) Report Abuse |
 Its only natural for poorer teams to try and convince richer teams to fund the Mediacenter. But I can tell you right now I understand the situation perfectly, and it is clearly not to my benefit to fund the Mediacenter. |
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