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hollyhh2000
posted: 2017-03-30 09:11:11 (ID: 100101576) Report Abuse
Jonny Utah wrote:
if the tactic of spend big then re-build is removed


I think the salary system does a really good job, that this tactics is not as successful as most think.

As in the high levels, each further skill is so much more expensive, so you have to spend really big bucks more for just a little bit more quality. You really have to think if the player is worth it (Physicals / Experience / Position) before you train to very high levels, so imo you get much more rewards if you run your team up to a financial sustainable level.

Imo the main advantage for rebuild is that you relegate and promote giving you great draft pics (low 1.1 and also high 2.x in leagues full of bots / inexperienced players) and a good amount of money for the playoffs in 2.x.
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passionatelad
posted: 2017-03-30 15:07:09 (ID: 100101597) Report Abuse
I think it starts to dictate how a manager runs his/her team. I dont like the changes I hate them. I left Soccermanager.com because the admin didn't care for its users and because they were dictating how managers run there team and I refuse to go back. Changes like the two made should have been put to the managers to decide in a poll before being implemented. I think it's a step in the wrong direction. I will have to lower the quality of my team because I wont be able to sustain it.
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posted: 2017-03-30 17:30:59 (ID: 100101605) Report Abuse
Pete's recent implementations creates kind of a salary cap which certainly minimizes an inflated bank account which is what some people are complaining about.

We will see in about 5 seasons the real effect it has. Quite frankly I believe we will see an equalizing of teams and an increase in competitiveness. Likely won't be the same teams perpetually in the playoffs. Of course roster management and playbook creativeness will still be important.
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hollyhh2000
posted: 2017-03-30 17:55:55 (ID: 100101608) Report Abuse
punch drunk wrote:
Pete's recent implementations creates kind of a salary cap which certainly minimizes an inflated bank account which is what some people are complaining about.

We will see in about 5 seasons the real effect it has. Quite frankly I believe we will see an equalizing of teams and an increase in competitiveness. Likely won't be the same teams perpetually in the playoffs. Of course roster management and playbook creativeness will still be important.


do you believe in fairy tales?

could you please point out how the changes should help in

1) create a salary cap
2) equalizing teams

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Quimriera
posted: 2017-03-30 18:59:51 (ID: 100101611) Report Abuse
I do not believe in fairy tales, I think the NFL system is the best of systems to create competitive and equalized leagues.

The Salary Cap forces the teams to create good playbooks, good strategies of attack and/or defense, to look for weaknesses in the rival .... with a limited budget. In short, to play Football.

Because with 100 billion in the current account and no limit to sign, anyone is able to create a Mega Team that will always opt for the Superbowl. Where is the merit?

In a game like RZA money has to be the means, not the end.

Another different thing is that it's complicated to transfer the idea to the programming.



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posted: 2017-03-30 19:46:11 (ID: 100101612)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
hollyhh2000 wrote:
punch drunk wrote:
Pete's recent implementations creates kind of a salary cap which certainly minimizes an inflated bank account which is what some people are complaining about.

We will see in about 5 seasons the real effect it has. Quite frankly I believe we will see an equalizing of teams and an increase in competitiveness. Likely won't be the same teams perpetually in the playoffs. Of course roster management and playbook creativeness will still be important.


do you believe in fairy tales?

could you please point out how the changes should help in

1) create a salary cap
2) equalizing teams



The expense of skill + expense of EXPERIENCE you will see teams that currently have the high skill high experience have to start paying big $$ for them. They will be unable to sustain astronomical salaries.

That basically creates an affordable salary cap.. You know income vs expenditures and all that + the increased tax on the TM will effect those who rely on player sales for income and all that..

That will basically equalize them with those of us who are not spending that kind of money..

Understand that?

Last edited on 2017-03-30 19:56:36 by punch drunk

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hollyhh2000
posted: 2017-03-30 19:57:18 (ID: 100101613) Report Abuse
punch drunk wrote:
hollyhh2000 wrote:
punch drunk wrote:
Pete's recent implementations creates kind of a salary cap which certainly minimizes an inflated bank account which is what some people are complaining about.

We will see in about 5 seasons the real effect it has. Quite frankly I believe we will see an equalizing of teams and an increase in competitiveness. Likely won't be the same teams perpetually in the playoffs. Of course roster management and playbook creativeness will still be important.


do you believe in fairy tales?

could you please point out how the changes should help in

1) create a salary cap
2) equalizing teams



The expense of skill + expense of EXPERIENCE you will see teams that currently have the high skill high experience have to start paying big $$ for them. They will be unable to sustain astronomical salaries.

That basically creates an affordable salary cap.. You know income vs expenditures and all that..

That will basically equalize them with those of us who are not spending that kind of money..

Understand that?


just read this thread before you did share your wisdom and you will see that I am not your opinion.

We will see what happens the next 5 years
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posted: 2017-03-30 20:04:04 (ID: 100101615) Report Abuse
different users wrote:
5 years


Someone will have to pay the supporter 5 years in advance then
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Cheesehead
posted: 2017-03-30 20:26:59 (ID: 100101617) Report Abuse
punch drunk wrote:
The expense of skill + expense of EXPERIENCE you will see teams that currently have the high skill high experience have to start paying big $$ for them. They will be unable to sustain astronomical salaries.


Perhaps. Too early to say. I do suspect that there are many teams with bank accounts that can sustain astronomical salaries for a while.

I still think a salary cap is the way to go...but I do recognise that may be flawed as well as it will probably drive the price up of mid-level players, the kind of players 'average' teams can pick up relatively cheap now. Complicated stuff
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Lamba
posted: 2017-03-30 21:40:06 (ID: 100101620) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
different users wrote:
5 years


Someone will have to pay the supporter 5 years in advance then

Is that the price of a salary cap, you say?
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