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Jonny Utah
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posted: 2017-08-15 21:29:27 (ID: 100111638)  Edits found: 2 Report Abuse
Would it he possible to have something like the challenge pool for trading places in leagues? Basically you would tick the leagues you would like to move to (has to be same level) and if anyone from one of those leagues has ticked your league you would swap places at season end. You would draft from your previous league same as with promotion/relegation. Or would this be a big season rollover ball-ache?
I'd like to make it clear though I will never leave Dragons, i'd never live it down!

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posted: 2017-08-15 21:33:17 (ID: 100111640) Report Abuse
With all respect, but no pool needed here. The issues of a team that was transfered with using such a pool are no different to a team that was transfered between region wothout such a pool. I am getting you wrong?
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posted: 2017-08-15 21:40:11 (ID: 100111642) Report Abuse
I don't think you're getting me wrong? Cheers Pete, ball-ache question answered
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posted: 2017-08-16 07:11:41 (ID: 100111670) Report Abuse
gabriel06 wrote:
Its important, I feel, to remember why the Elite League was created in the first place.

It was because so many teams were 'too dominant' in their domestic Divisions and were getting no real challenges, other than from one or two teams - some exceptions, but generally the case.

So the Elite League was set up so that the premier teams got more competition on a season by season basis, allowing some real kudos for winning that Bowl - but also allowing other teams a chance at winning their 1.1 Divisions and having a crack at Elite.

I think the balance is pretty spot on. Yes - it is tough - hell, its supposed to be. I feel there could *maybe* be a slight financial gain by playing in the Elite league - it certainly shouldn't be a loss maker for any club in there - but maybe/hopefully that's something that the MediaCentre could be for, a bit further down the line.

Ive seen Admirals teams be relegated from Elite with 10-6, 11-5 records in the regular season. There will be some anomalies, but the overall set up is, IMO, fair, balanced and makes sense for both teams that play in Elite - but also teams that are in 1.1, who can fight for glory without having to run into the real big boys that would ordinarily sweep up season in, season out, and having something else to aim for over and above 1.1

It is kudos....it is honour....its an achievement to get there and stay there....im not sure what else is needed really.


I remember that and the Elite league does a brilliant job at removing the very top teams from 1.1. That being said, the problem we had before is that the best team in RZA could face the 256th best team in its league, that was too big of a gap but now we can have the 10th/12th best team in RZA potentially facing the 288th team in its league so we've moved the goal posts a bit but the crux of the problem remains the same imo.
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posted: 2017-08-16 08:15:59 (ID: 100111678) Report Abuse
I would suggest the gap, per league, between the 12th best team and 1st is much more than the 256th and 288th....so yes, theres still a gap - there always will be with those numbers/rankings - but its still closer.

But also, those games happen far less frequent - and notwithstanding that the number 1 team gets many more competitive games (that surely is the requirement) than playing the 256th team, 218th, 187th, 210th and so on.......?

As said my friend - there will always be a gap between teams - we have quite a decent success rate of teams coming up from 2.x staying in 1.1 in Admirals - and I think we are one of the deepest leagues in terms of quality around. But having Elite there to separate teams out is vital and works exceedingly well in my opinion - I think to go back to 'how it was' would be a huge step backwards myself.
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Meitheisman
posted: 2017-08-16 08:44:09 (ID: 100111687) Report Abuse
Honestly I do not have the time to dig the data up but I would be interested in knowing how many 1.1 games are competitive games, by that I mean games decided by 1 possession or less. You can even push it to games decided by 10pts or less if you want. I honestly think this is what makes most managers leave. You have 31 guaranteed regular season games per season but most of them are either super easy wins or guaranteed losses, that's what I would like to reduce.
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posted: 2017-08-16 08:46:26 (ID: 100111688) Report Abuse
If you dislike your current gameplay, become a better team. How could I fix this...
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Meitheisman
posted: 2017-08-16 08:50:08 (ID: 100111690) Report Abuse
It's not about being better or worse Pete, it's about the gap between the top and bottom of most 1.1 leagues being too big.

How can you fix this? I do not know but if we agree that it needs to be fixed and that you are willing to do something to address this issue maybe we can find a solution together and improve things? The RZA community's always been great at coming up with ideas to improve this excellent game
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posted: 2017-08-16 08:53:39 (ID: 100111693) Report Abuse
I do not understand why I have to fix "a gap", that was created by the skills of the managers itself. I mean, the goal of the game is to be a good Football team manager. If there are better and worse managers in here, the worse have to get better to close the gap. I cannot make the better managers acting worse, and I cannot fix game mechanics, if they are not really broken. If I add kind of artificial burdens or bonuses, I will screw the gameplay, probably
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posted: 2017-08-16 08:56:51 (ID: 100111694) Report Abuse
Meitheisman wrote:
Honestly I do not have the time to dig the data up but I would be interested in knowing how many 1.1 games are competitive games, by that I mean games decided by 1 possession or less. You can even push it to games decided by 10pts or less if you want. I honestly think this is what makes most managers leave. You have 31 guaranteed regular season games per season but most of them are either super easy wins or guaranteed losses, that's what I would like to reduce.


i know my team is in dragons 2.2 but this is relevant regarding competitive games i think. I lost to Trnava Saints twice this season, 23-17 and 28-33 (which was my match of the year) in the regular season. Then in the conference championship I beat them 41-17. I changed my tactics against them for the last game but the argument could be had that it was not a competitive match, however i think it was as is the rivalry, at least from my side.
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