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| posted: 2017-10-24 18:34:02 (ID: 100116739) Report Abuse | |
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noodle wrote:
I'm not quite sure what I can do to get thumbs up. Just avoid playbooks where the input creates "lopsided plays". Avoid playbooks as well, where the outcome is "lopsided". |
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| posted: 2017-10-24 21:03:51 (ID: 100116760) Report Abuse | |
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pete wrote:
There are two mechanism in here. The Defense AI lets switch the EXPECTATION from pass to run in your example. The Lopsided tactics penalty won't do anything on this one. But if the majority of the plays would result in a SG4WR, the lopsided tatcics penalty would weaken the whole offense... I hope you understand what I am trying to say. Thanks, and that does make sense. Regarding the Expectation aspect, does expectation just affect formation changes or does it also affect on-field performance? Here is an example: A coach is not sure if his opponent is going to run or pass out of the I-form, so he sets 4-3-4 formation for both pass and rush preference. Let's say his opponent runs several consecutive I-from runs. In the short-term, will the defense get any better playing against the rush because they are expecting the rush? |
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| posted: 2017-10-24 21:10:46 (ID: 100116762) Report Abuse | |
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Let me answer it a little bit different: The D "counts" rush and pass plays, and makes the decision based on these counts. It does not matter if the count is 17:4, or 12:9...but it would make a difference if it was 11:10, or 10:11...however, 4:17 is clear enough again. Now, if the decision is not clear enough, the preset ("expect XY") comes into account.
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posted: 2017-10-25 04:20:57 (ID: 100116794) Report Abuse |
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pete wrote:
noodle wrote:
I'm not quite sure what I can do to get thumbs up. Just avoid playbooks where the input creates "lopsided plays". Avoid playbooks as well, where the outcome is "lopsided". I assumed I was by playing multiple formations in defence and offence.  |
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posted: 2017-10-25 04:50:54 (ID: 100116795) Report Abuse |
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If I understood well, the defense formations are answers to the offense. Therefore it can not impact the loopsides count. If a team plays only SH4WR it seems logical to use the same defense most of the time (we can argue on the direction of the pass and the distance to goalline).
Only a loopsided offensive PB would lead to a penalty. |
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posted: 2017-10-25 06:49:09 (ID: 100116809) Report Abuse |
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ptdoc2017 wrote:
A coach is not sure if his opponent is going to run or pass out of the I-form, so he sets 4-3-4 formation for both pass and rush preference. Let's say his opponent runs several consecutive I-from runs. In the short-term, will the defense get any better playing against the rush because they are expecting the rush? Btw In general I would not recommend using 4-3-4 against the I-form when in doubt... |
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posted: 2017-10-27 09:57:39 (ID: 100116955) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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noodle wrote:
pete wrote:
noodle wrote:
I'm not quite sure what I can do to get thumbs up. Just avoid playbooks where the input creates "lopsided plays". Avoid playbooks as well, where the outcome is "lopsided". I assumed I was by playing multiple formations in defence and offence. As said Fincyril, defensive formations are "just" the response to the offensive formation. On offense, it's not about formations only, but what play you do run with one specific formation. For example, if you are using 8 different formations, but always running up the middle in SG4, or passing to the flanks in the I, (and so on) well we can call it a lopsided tactic. Last edited on 2017-10-27 09:58:50 by MonsterT95 |
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posted: 2017-10-30 08:54:28 (ID: 100117203) Report Abuse |
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MonsterT95 wrote:
noodle wrote:
pete wrote:
noodle wrote:
I'm not quite sure what I can do to get thumbs up. Just avoid playbooks where the input creates "lopsided plays". Avoid playbooks as well, where the outcome is "lopsided". I assumed I was by playing multiple formations in defence and offence. As said Fincyril, defensive formations are "just" the response to the offensive formation. On offense, it's not about formations only, but what play you do run with one specific formation. For example, if you are using 8 different formations, but always running up the middle in SG4, or passing to the flanks in the I, (and so on) well we can call it a lopsided tactic. Thanks. as far as im aware i have a variety, but hey ho i may be wrong. i get a mix of even thumb and thimb down, rarely a thumb up. |
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