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Superpippo
posted: 2017-12-07 18:04:31 (ID: 100120436) Report Abuse
Browka wrote:
Well, you can stop using 434 in defence.

I don't know for other managers but if I use this formation it's because I forgot to set my playbook. I don't feel like it's really good against run and it's terrible against pass.


That's definitely one of the biggest problems. Check your match stats and what avg yardage you're giving up when defending 434. There's also something really wrong with the way your 344 defense works against the pro set. Which is actually weird cuz that should work ok... Maybe something in your depth chart?
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Browka
posted: 2017-12-07 18:37:28 (ID: 100120437) Report Abuse
Adding to Superpipo's post.

I just checked your defensive roster. I think you got a good rating because you have good players but you don't have enough players. Not enough DL, CB and SF. Your team's PC should be hit pretty hard every game and slow down your players' progression. And, of course, during the game, your players got tired faster and get less efficient quarter to quarter.

(Goddamit, english is hard for me tonight. >< )
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marinarul10
posted: 2017-12-07 23:00:52 (ID: 100120451) Report Abuse
Superpippo wrote:
Browka wrote:
Well, you can stop using 434 in defence.

I don't know for other managers but if I use this formation it's because I forgot to set my playbook. I don't feel like it's really good against run and it's terrible against pass.


That's definitely one of the biggest problems. Check your match stats and what avg yardage you're giving up when defending 434. There's also something really wrong with the way your 344 defense works against the pro set. Which is actually weird cuz that should work ok... Maybe something in your depth chart?


Thanks a lot for your help guys!

I know that i don't have enough good players, in offense too, but i can't do much without money right now so this is something i'm working on at slow pace...and anyway my games are lost in the first half....
I have already bring in around 15 new players who are not at max TC(65-85 right now) but i don't think a 34-0 loss will turn in a win with max TC at those players....

434 formation might be a problem but again for sure is not the biggest one in my team. If i stop using 434 then i need to use more 344 formation, or 443 with only one SF or 335 without a SF coach right ? How can i use 344 more when Centurions score 3 long touchdowns(73, 63, 36 yards) with SBS, I Form and Pro against 344 in a 10-27 loss for me?! The only roster problem i see is that i have used a DE and a SF with 70-80 team chemistry , but the other SF miss the tackle
on those plays.....

So, my main problem should be on offense , not a perfect QB, maybe weak WRs and OLs , but still my team passing rating is 72.8 and rushing rating is 73.1...with those ratings i should have scored more then an average of 9 points per match in my 3 losses this season....

So , again, what a heck is going on?

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Browka
posted: 2017-12-08 04:31:38 (ID: 100120455) Report Abuse
marinarul10 wrote:
Superpippo wrote:
Browka wrote:
Well, you can stop using 434 in defence.

I don't know for other managers but if I use this formation it's because I forgot to set my playbook. I don't feel like it's really good against run and it's terrible against pass.


That's definitely one of the biggest problems. Check your match stats and what avg yardage you're giving up when defending 434. There's also something really wrong with the way your 344 defense works against the pro set. Which is actually weird cuz that should work ok... Maybe something in your depth chart?


Thanks a lot for your help guys!

I know that i don't have enough good players, in offense too, but i can't do much without money right now so this is something i'm working on at slow pace...and anyway my games are lost in the first half....
I have already bring in around 15 new players who are not at max TC(65-85 right now) but i don't think a 34-0 loss will turn in a win with max TC at those players....

434 formation might be a problem but again for sure is not the biggest one in my team. If i stop using 434 then i need to use more 344 formation, or 443 with only one SF or 335 without a SF coach right ? How can i use 344 more when Centurions score 3 long touchdowns(73, 63, 36 yards) with SBS, I Form and Pro against 344 in a 10-27 loss for me?! The only roster problem i see is that i have used a DE and a SF with 70-80 team chemistry , but the other SF miss the tackle
on those plays.....

So, my main problem should be on offense , not a perfect QB, maybe weak WRs and OLs , but still my team passing rating is 72.8 and rushing rating is 73.1...with those ratings i should have scored more then an average of 9 points per match in my 3 losses this season....

So , again, what a heck is going on?



Well, all this and you can add the fact that sometimes you just lose games because the game engine is base on random dices too.

Don't focus too much on your loses games, your opponent in SC defeat me too last season and my team rating was higher than his. My team improved a lot when I began to had good depth in my DC and may be try something new in your playbook.
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jagreen
posted: 2017-12-08 14:23:51 (ID: 100120468)  Edits found: 3 Report Abuse
marinarul10 wrote:
Superpippo wrote:
Browka wrote:
Well, you can stop using 434 in defence.

I don't know for other managers but if I use this formation it's because I forgot to set my playbook. I don't feel like it's really good against run and it's terrible against pass.


That's definitely one of the biggest problems. Check your match stats and what avg yardage you're giving up when defending 434. There's also something really wrong with the way your 344 defense works against the pro set. Which is actually weird cuz that should work ok... Maybe something in your depth chart?


Thanks a lot for your help guys!

I know that i don't have enough good players, in offense too, but i can't do much without money right now so this is something i'm working on at slow pace...and anyway my games are lost in the first half....
I have already bring in around 15 new players who are not at max TC(65-85 right now) but i don't think a 34-0 loss will turn in a win with max TC at those players....

434 formation might be a problem but again for sure is not the biggest one in my team. If i stop using 434 then i need to use more 344 formation, or 443 with only one SF or 335 without a SF coach right ? How can i use 344 more when Centurions score 3 long touchdowns(73, 63, 36 yards) with SBS, I Form and Pro against 344 in a 10-27 loss for me?! The only roster problem i see is that i have used a DE and a SF with 70-80 team chemistry , but the other SF miss the tackle
on those plays.....

So, my main problem should be on offense , not a perfect QB, maybe weak WRs and OLs , but still my team passing rating is 72.8 and rushing rating is 73.1...with those ratings i should have scored more then an average of 9 points per match in my 3 losses this season....

So , again, what a heck is going on?



To be quite honest you could (all of us could/perhaps should) run a D playbook with 344 and 335 only and blitz your LB 75%. I would throw in a 443 if and only if you know they run on those downs and distances.

You need two types of DL in my opinion. DT/NT = 48+str, speed can be 35-40, focus on Tackle, vision, Footwork, Position in that order to an extent. DE= studs I prefer 48+ and 48+. If something has to give go with 45+/45+ higher TW is good and Intelligence doesn't matter in my opinion.

LB/SF are the same build. cut off is 48 spd/40str for OLB with intelligence over 40. MLB should be more balanced like a DE with Intelligence very high close to 50 imho.

You can setup transfer market agents to send you an email each time a guy fits these criteria. So you could have one, and should, for QB, WR, TE, OL, OLB, MLB/SF, CB, DT, DE etc. This way over time you can purchase guys that fit the mold and not over pay. Decide ahead of time what you are willing to pay. Don't go above that.

Last edited on 2017-12-08 14:37:09 by jagreen

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WorpeX
posted: 2017-12-08 15:07:51 (ID: 100120472)  Edits found: 2 Report Abuse
jagreen wrote:
marinarul10 wrote:
Superpippo wrote:
Browka wrote:
Well, you can stop using 434 in defence.

I don't know for other managers but if I use this formation it's because I forgot to set my playbook. I don't feel like it's really good against run and it's terrible against pass.


That's definitely one of the biggest problems. Check your match stats and what avg yardage you're giving up when defending 434. There's also something really wrong with the way your 344 defense works against the pro set. Which is actually weird cuz that should work ok... Maybe something in your depth chart?


Thanks a lot for your help guys!

I know that i don't have enough good players, in offense too, but i can't do much without money right now so this is something i'm working on at slow pace...and anyway my games are lost in the first half....
I have already bring in around 15 new players who are not at max TC(65-85 right now) but i don't think a 34-0 loss will turn in a win with max TC at those players....

434 formation might be a problem but again for sure is not the biggest one in my team. If i stop using 434 then i need to use more 344 formation, or 443 with only one SF or 335 without a SF coach right ? How can i use 344 more when Centurions score 3 long touchdowns(73, 63, 36 yards) with SBS, I Form and Pro against 344 in a 10-27 loss for me?! The only roster problem i see is that i have used a DE and a SF with 70-80 team chemistry , but the other SF miss the tackle
on those plays.....

So, my main problem should be on offense , not a perfect QB, maybe weak WRs and OLs , but still my team passing rating is 72.8 and rushing rating is 73.1...with those ratings i should have scored more then an average of 9 points per match in my 3 losses this season....

So , again, what a heck is going on?



To be quite honest you could (all of us could/perhaps should) run a D playbook with 344 and 335 only and blitz your LB 75%. I would throw in a 443 if and only if you know they run on those downs and distances.

You need two types of DL in my opinion. DT/NT = 48+str, speed can be 35-40, focus on Tackle, vision, Footwork, Position in that order to an extent. DE= studs I prefer 48+ and 48+. If something has to give go with 45+/45+ higher TW is good and Intelligence doesn't matter in my opinion.

LB/SF are the same build. cut off is 48 spd/40str for OLB with intelligence over 40. MLB should be more balanced like a DE with Intelligence very high close to 50 imho.

You can setup transfer market agents to send you an email each time a guy fits these criteria. So you could have one, and should, for QB, WR, TE, OL, OLB, MLB/SF, CB, DT, DE etc. This way over time you can purchase guys that fit the mold and not over pay. Decide ahead of time what you are willing to pay. Don't go above that.


Stop giving away elite team secrets please!! If too many teams know this it will be much harder to win.

In all seriousness though, people give me shit for having a pretty simple offensive playbook, but on defense my playbook is anything but. The most common way to build your team is to have STUD LBs and blitz them 75% of the time. You do this from 3-4-4 and 4-4-3 since you'll have 4 LBs on the field.

4-3-4 & 3-1-7 are trash formations. Just don't use them. If you need to sell out against the pass, 3-3-5 is a solid formation. 5-2 and 5-3-3 are to sell out against the run, though, I honestly don't know why anyone would ever use 5-2 since 5-3-3 at least gives you some safeties if your opponent decides to play pass.

DIME is a weird formation. It sucks 75% of the time but it seems to have a very high probability of getting an interception. Goaline D is great on... the goaline. Since SF help is not important there, its a great place to play it.

Last edited on 2017-12-08 15:10:14 by WorpeX

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marinarul10
posted: 2017-12-08 16:48:41 (ID: 100120474) Report Abuse
You're all awesome, guys! I have tried a 344,443 mix against the All Stars and guess what, overtime win even if my offense was perfect for them with 5 turnovers(3 int 2 fum)

Do you guys some great advices on offense too?
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lynx13
posted: 2017-12-09 08:36:45 (ID: 100120487) Report Abuse
Waterboys next 6 games: Rioters, Buffalos, Cool, Barmbek, Arkham, Cool.
Hmmm, time to put that swimming pool and psychologist into good use.
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ashlee
posted: 2017-12-09 12:07:47 (ID: 100120489)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
WorpeX wrote:

In all seriousness though, people give me shit for having a pretty simple offensive playbook, but on defense my playbook is anything but. The most common way to build your team is to have STUD LBs and blitz them 75% of the time. You do this from 3-4-4 and 4-4-3 since you'll have 4 LBs on the field.

4-3-4 & 3-1-7 are trash formations. Just don't use them. If you need to sell out against the pass, 3-3-5 is a solid formation. 5-2 and 5-3-3 are to sell out against the run, though, I honestly don't know why anyone would ever use 5-2 since 5-3-3 at least gives you some safeties if your opponent decides to play pass.

DIME is a weird formation. It sucks 75% of the time but it seems to have a very high probability of getting an interception. Goaline D is great on... the goaline. Since SF help is not important there, its a great place to play it.


This is very sound logic. To dwell further, is it important to consider the relative strength of each position group, i.e. DL v LB v CB v SF?

e.g. if a team has better CBs than LBs and SFs, would it be better to prefer formations that employ more CBs than LBs/SFs against the pass?

Last edited on 2017-12-09 12:09:12 by ashlee

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jagreen
posted: 2017-12-09 16:41:19 (ID: 100120498) Report Abuse
ashlee wrote:
WorpeX wrote:

In all seriousness though, people give me shit for having a pretty simple offensive playbook, but on defense my playbook is anything but. The most common way to build your team is to have STUD LBs and blitz them 75% of the time. You do this from 3-4-4 and 4-4-3 since you'll have 4 LBs on the field.

4-3-4 & 3-1-7 are trash formations. Just don't use them. If you need to sell out against the pass, 3-3-5 is a solid formation. 5-2 and 5-3-3 are to sell out against the run, though, I honestly don't know why anyone would ever use 5-2 since 5-3-3 at least gives you some safeties if your opponent decides to play pass.

DIME is a weird formation. It sucks 75% of the time but it seems to have a very high probability of getting an interception. Goaline D is great on... the goaline. Since SF help is not important there, its a great place to play it.


This is very sound logic. To dwell further, is it important to consider the relative strength of each position group, i.e. DL v LB v CB v SF?

e.g. if a team has better CBs than LBs and SFs, would it be better to prefer formations that employ more CBs than LBs/SFs against the pass?


If you can get sacks you should. Thus prefer more LB in the game.
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