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gnikeoj
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posted: 2017-11-28 04:05:04 (ID: 100119730) Report Abuse |
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Solana_Steve wrote:
gnikeoj wrote:
Your OLBs could have been attempting to defend inside passes, so against certain formations, only MLBs are available and free to blitz. I thought blitzing LBs were randomly selected from the linebackers on the field. If you blitz an OLB, then there is kind of missing coverage over there. No? Steve SD Blitz I don't know if it's random, but the manual states that OLBs always try to defend inner passes. If that always is ALWAYS then they probably don't blitz when they have someone to cover in their zone if/when no help is available. I guess that would make it less random and more opportunistic, so the weakside LB might have the most blitz chances of the 2 OLBs. |
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| posted: 2017-11-28 09:50:52 (ID: 100119745) Report Abuse | |
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Solana_Steve wrote:
Still seems like 3-4-4 with a blitzing LB is much more effective at getting to the QB than 4-4-3 without blitzing. DE are pretty ineffective. That's the clearest part of the blitzing question for me: 3-4-4 with blitzing LB means you actually have 3 pass-rushers (2 DEs+LB) looking for the sack, while in 4-4-3 without blitz you only have 2 DEs hunting the QB, since DTs never score sacks in RZA. As a matter of fact you are changing a run-oriented DL with a pass-rushing LB. I figure that this is the reason for 3-4 blitz > 4-4 no_blitz in terms of sacks statistics. All the other considerations can be valid in theory, since none but Pete knows the complete recipe of the engine. |
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Rock777
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posted: 2017-11-28 16:45:40 (ID: 100119792) Edits found: 2 Report Abuse |
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I think DTs are still supposed to be contributing towards the line getting a sack. Its just that they are only awarded to the DEs. Regardless, more DLs should mean less OLs focusing on your pass rushers.
But I agree, it does make sense that blitzing 3-4-4 should be more effective than non-blitzing 4-4-3. In 4-4-3 all four guys start on the line with OL ready to block. In blitzing 3-4-4 there is one guy coming out of the backfield without an OL explicitly assigned (remember they don't know which if any of those LBs is going to blitz). I know my DEs are useless at sacking, but I suspect that is because my DTs have low speed, so as a unit my DL is considered slow. The engine doesn't seem to take kindly to mixed unit strengths (DE/DT, MLB/OLB). Instead of having fast outside guys and strong inside guys you end up just having an average unit...  Last edited on 2017-11-28 16:53:04 by Rock777 |
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spartans11
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posted: 2017-11-28 17:50:00 (ID: 100119808) Report Abuse |
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My strong side OLB has led my team in sacks the past two years.
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jagreen
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posted: 2017-11-28 17:53:07 (ID: 100119810) Report Abuse |
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Rock777 wrote:
I generally blitz 75% on most passing plays, but never on a run (unless I was tricked by the opponent of course). There are a few passing situations where I blitz less often. Agreed. |
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gnikeoj
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posted: 2017-11-28 22:32:18 (ID: 100119855) Report Abuse |
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spartans11 wrote:
My strong side OLB has led my team in sacks the past two years. This isn't terribly surprising IMO. Players rushing on the strong side are theoretically facing off vs the "weaker" OT/OG combo. IF my thoughts about blitz opportunities are off base, then I may need to fill my depth chart differently since I should be taking advantage of this. |
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MonsterT95
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posted: 2017-11-30 11:51:44 (ID: 100120022) Report Abuse |
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jagreen wrote:
Rock777 wrote:
I generally blitz 75% on most passing plays, but never on a run (unless I was tricked by the opponent of course). There are a few passing situations where I blitz less often. Agreed. Personally I hate blitzing on 1st down because à first down sack often means a 3rd down convertion. |
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Meitheisman
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posted: 2017-11-30 12:24:54 (ID: 100120023) Report Abuse |
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I'm not sure that's true. It may seem like that because we remember more the 3rd and 17 conversions against us than the 3rd and 17 incompletions that our defense forced.
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Superpippo
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posted: 2017-11-30 12:34:31 (ID: 100120025) Report Abuse |
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Meitheisman wrote:
I'm not sure that's true. It may seem like that because we remember more the 3rd and 17 conversions against us than the 3rd and 17 incompletions that our defense forced. Meitheisman is right, statiscally you're less likely to get a completion on 11-20 than the shorter distances. It just hurts more when they do get a completion  |
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| posted: 2017-12-01 00:23:32 (ID: 100120111) Report Abuse | |
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Is a 3rd and 17 pass still considered a short pass?
When you do a medium or long pass, the interception rate goes up considerably. If you have 1st and 10, you can't really throw a 17 yard short pass. If you throw a medium or longer pass - - then it's often picked off. Steve SD Blitz |
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