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posted: 2018-02-02 17:07:34 (ID: 100123036) Report Abuse
IMO it is plain wrong to "hurry" at each halfs final seconds without taking the field position into account. Since the suggestion was "enhanced" b this, if I got it right, I cannot do anything else than refuse it.

Explanation: as long as we have the "if behind" condition, it is all good, since no matter what you need to score. But if we change the condition to "own score less than or equal to opps score", the position on the field becomes an important part. You don't wanna hurry, if you are on your own 10 at 1st and 10. You want to run out the clock, especially at the end of the second quarter.

Conclusion: this needs more thinking IMO
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posted: 2018-02-02 17:18:50 (ID: 100123041) Report Abuse
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the position on the field becomes an important part. You don't wanna hurry, if you are on your own 10 at 1st and 10. You want to run out the clock, especially at the end of the second quarter.

Conclusion: this needs more thinking IMO


Absolutely agree.

Thats why the suggestion was:

Hurry up, if you are in the opponent half. No need to hurry up into a SF
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posted: 2018-02-02 17:21:37 (ID: 100123042) Report Abuse
hollyhh2000 wrote:
After watching yesterdays Elite game between BobBoy and Weleley:

Please add to the suggestion: also use hurry up offense at the end of game and in the opponents half when the game is tied



I was refering to this one, and the reasoning is the same even I do speak about the 2nd quarter and you are talking about the 4th. Some wants to enter the 5th quarter in the situation described above
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posted: 2018-02-02 17:37:02 (ID: 100123043) Report Abuse
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hollyhh2000 wrote:
After watching yesterdays Elite game between BobBoy and Weleley:

Please add to the suggestion: also use hurry up offense at the end of game and in the opponents half when the game is tied



I was refering to this one, and the reasoning is the same even I do speak about the 2nd quarter and you are talking about the 4th. Some wants to enter the 5th quarter in the situation described above


Yes, I agree, that you might not want to lose the game deep in your own half, so after thinking about it, I would also add the 'just in the opponents half' condition to this part of the suggestion.

(Although I was pretty fourious, when then Broncos HC John Fox, took a knee in this situation with a hall of Fame QB under center However, that future Hall of Famer is not so much liked by Pete, if I remember correctly )
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posted: 2018-02-02 17:41:22 (ID: 100123044) Report Abuse
don't know who you are talking about
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posted: 2018-02-02 18:01:15 (ID: 100123047)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
OK, it is this way in games calculated by engine 4.32 or better. For the moment this is "friendlies only".

To check it out, you could use scrimmage or friendly games.

If you are not in the lead and your offense is on the field during the last 75 seconds of quarter 2 or 4 and you are 50 yards or less yards away from the opps endzone, "hurry up" is active.

Last edited on 2018-02-02 18:01:52 by pete

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posted: 2018-02-02 18:05:55 (ID: 100123048) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
IMO it is plain wrong to "hurry" at each halfs final seconds without taking the field position into account. Since the suggestion was "enhanced" b this, if I got it right, I cannot do anything else than refuse it.

Explanation: as long as we have the "if behind" condition, it is all good, since no matter what you need to score. But if we change the condition to "own score less than or equal to opps score", the position on the field becomes an important part. You don't wanna hurry, if you are on your own 10 at 1st and 10. You want to run out the clock, especially at the end of the second quarter.

Conclusion: this needs more thinking IMO


I think it should be a manager's choice. I personally would probably hurry up at the end of the first half no matter what the situation is, just like I often go for it on 4th down in my own half. I like the fact that RZA allows me to go for it and play aggressive on 4th down, I see the end of half kind of the same way.
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posted: 2018-02-02 18:09:11 (ID: 100123049) Report Abuse
Yes, I agree! But until we have such a "managers choice" by adding a clock management option to the playbook, it has to be hard coded in the engine. IMO this suggestions just improves the current situation.
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posted: 2018-02-02 18:12:14 (ID: 100123050) Report Abuse


I'm not sure I understand what changed?

There used to be hurry up if you were not in the lead in the past 75 seconds of each half no matter where you were on the field and now it's only active if you are on your opponent's half?
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posted: 2018-02-02 18:14:41 (ID: 100123051) Report Abuse
No!

If you are behind, you hurry up, no matter of your field position

if you are tied and on the 50 or closer to your opps endzone, you hurry up as well...
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