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Poll: What to do with the training progress calculation during negotiations? (see description in first post),
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| posted: 2018-05-08 20:39:44 (ID: 100128086) Report Abuse | |||||
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prchaser wrote:
I think I know the answer already ("No"), but would it be possible to cancel existing contracts with this change? For example, I have a franchise contract that is less appealing now because I was counting on him to age better than it looks like he will under the training change I am afraid I cannot do this. It would make "planning" and "contracts somehow pointless |
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Fummer wrote:
For option C i vote. Best Yoda knows. 
After the 5th Guinness I am almost sure about my former decisions... |
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smokerteer
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posted: 2018-05-08 20:51:26 (ID: 100128090) Report Abuse | ||||
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Is there any clues you can give us for speed of training for draft players.
For example under the old system I can tell if an 18 year old will be fully trained (for my needs) by certain a certain age. Under the new system is it possible for you to tell us roughly at what age the two systems have the same result? Do the training systems match training times at 24, 27, 30, etc? Any clues before the draft would be appreciated! |
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| posted: 2018-05-08 20:57:26 (ID: 100128092) Report Abuse | |||||
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It is purely based on age, not if a players was drafted, pulled or signed.
A 16 ys old could possibly double the speed of physical training, and go by factor 1.5 for playskill training. An 31 ys old will roughly stay where he is today. Between these two markers, it will be kind of a curve function... And no, I dislike revealing more details of the progress calculation - but I guess this is enough to answer your questions. |
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smokerteer
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posted: 2018-05-08 21:29:10 (ID: 100128094) Report Abuse | ||||
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Buddy Ryan
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posted: 2018-05-08 21:47:14 (ID: 100128100) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse | ||||
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sounds really interesting, looking forward to this!
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| posted: 2018-05-08 21:53:30 (ID: 100128101) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse | |||||
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pete wrote:
For the poll: Option A: We could leave the calculation as slow as it is today. This will result in players ignoring their now better progress while negotiating contracts. This means as well the jumps between the single negotiating seasons wil be more harsh. But, it would create a better benefit out of the HR Department, why this is my personal preference. Option B: Adapt the expectation to the new training progress. It is the opposite of option A, therefore see A and imagine the opposite outcome. Let me try to understand if I understood it correctly. Option A A younger player wion't know that he is going to grow faster, so he won't be greedy in contract negotiations, therefore younger players will be underpaid wrt to their future growth (e.g. a three years contract will be signed for the same amount as today, even if we know that after 3 years the player will be much better than his wage). An older player will refuse to admit he won't grow anymore and he will expect to be paid as a youngster of the same skill levels. Option B Everyone knows how he will grow in the next future and raise/reduce their expectations in term of money accordingly. Youngers will be better paid and older ones will accept for lower wages than the former contracts. If it is like this,both solutions seem economically equivalent in the long term. I prefer option A in the near term, because with option B teams full of veterans will benefit from a decrease of team wages total in the next couple of seasons, gaining something while this change brings players to a new balanced level. Last edited on 2018-05-08 21:54:00 by Yashin |
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Meitheisman
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posted: 2018-05-08 22:02:33 (ID: 100128102) Report Abuse | ||||
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This will completely change the way I manage my team. Until now I basically trained my youth pulls until they were ~27 and then they became starters until retirement. That meant for a player pulled at 16 and retiring at 32 about 12 seasons of training and 5 seasons on the field so for each starter I needed 2.4 players training in the pipeline to eventually replace the starter... if instead of 12 seasons of training for 5 on the field we can now train our guys for "only" 10 seasons to get the same result and they play for 7 seasons I'll "only" need 1.4 player training per starter.
I'm not saying this will be good or bad as I simply don't know yet and I'm sure it'll have pros and cons but I am stating that it is a surprisingly important change to roster management  |
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posted: 2018-05-08 22:14:13 (ID: 100128104) Report Abuse | ||||
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This is good - one benefit in my mind is that it lowers the curve a bit, so managers can be competitive a little faster
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prchaser
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posted: 2018-05-09 00:10:41 (ID: 100128110) Report Abuse | ||||
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Meitheisman wrote:I'm not saying this will be good or bad as I simply don't know yet and I'm sure it'll have pros and cons but I am stating that it is a surprisingly important change to roster management
Definitely a game changer Which is why I was wondering if it was possible for a one-time-only, small window opportunity to renegotiate existing contracts that were offered under the old rules, but oh well |
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