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posted: 2018-06-28 10:08:12 (ID: 100130083) Report Abuse
dell_g wrote:

Any chance this engine can replace the current engine in the league matches straight away or are you waiting for the new season Pete?


It has to wait for season rollover, I do never switch engine mid season, except for really harsh bugs.
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posted: 2018-06-28 13:55:51 (ID: 100130098) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
dell_g wrote:

Any chance this engine can replace the current engine in the league matches straight away or are you waiting for the new season Pete?


It has to wait for season rollover, I do never switch engine mid season, except for really harsh bugs.

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posted: 2018-08-25 21:09:32 (ID: 100132163)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
Friendly game, Marauders @ Chiefs.

Q1 13:47 Graham Leigh (CB/R) returns the ball, by using his speed he is able to make the score, this was a 56 yards interception return touchdown (4-4-3 vs. Pro set) more

Q1 11:55 Anibal Hadley (MLB) returns the ball, Gary Wheeler (WR/R) missed the tackle, this was a 87 yards interception return touchdown (3-4-4 vs. Pro set) more

Q1 11:01 Graham Leigh (CB/R) returns the ball, this was a 60 yards interception return touchdown (3-4-4 vs. Pro set) more

Q2 4:15 Anibal Hadley (MLB) returns the ball, Gary Wheeler (WR/L) is not able to make the tackle, Mitchell Scholl (HB/L) missed the tackle, this was a 54 yards interception return touchdown (3-4-4 vs. Pro set) more

Q2 4:04 Anibal Hadley (MLB) returns the ball, this was a 35 yards interception return touchdown (3-4-4 vs. Pro set) more

Q2 1:46 Anibal Hadley (MLB) returns the ball, Johnny Masterson (QB) is not able to make the tackle, this was a 96 yards interception return touchdown (3-4-4 vs. Pro set) more

Q3 13:51 Anibal Hadley (MLB) returns the ball, by using his speed he is able to make the score, this was a 42 yards interception return touchdown (3-4-4 vs. Pro set) more

Q3 9:30 Graham Leigh (CB/L) returns the ball, he is simply too fast for getting tackled, this was a 48 yards interception return touchdown (3-4-4 vs. Pro set) more

Q3 2:56 1 and 10 to go on own 6, Reggie Dillon (OC) snaps the ball to Allan Lira (QB), Allan Lira (QB) selected Morton Hutchings (WR/R) as target, Bradley Gladden (DE/R) breaks through the line, he passes outer right for 11 yards to him, intercepted by Frances Faulkner (CB/L) on the own 17 (Singleback Spread vs. 4-4-3) more

Q3 2:48 Anibal Hadley (MLB) returns the ball, missed tackle by Johnny Masterson (QB), this was a 100 yards interception return touchdown (3-4-4 vs. Pro set) more

Q3 1:21 Anibal Hadley (MLB) returns the ball, this was a 45 yards interception return touchdown (3-4-4 vs. Pro

Q4 9:59 P.J. Landers (MLB) returns the ball, missed tackle by Gary Wheeler (WR/L), this was a 40 yards interception return touchdown (3-4-4 vs. Pro set) more

Q4 9:44 P.J. Landers (MLB) returns the ball, by using his speed he is able to make the score, this was a 35 yards interception return touchdown (3-4-4 vs. Pro set) more

Q4 9:30 P.J. Landers (MLB) returns the ball, this was a 40 yards interception return touchdown (3-4-4 vs. Pro set) more

Q4 8:17 Deandre Boston (CB/R) returns the ball, by using his speed he is able to make the score, this was a 64 yards interception return touchdown (3-4-4 vs. Pro set) more

Q4 7:56 Deandre Boston (CB/L) returns the ball, this was a 37 yards interception return touchdown (3-4-4 vs. Pro set) more

Q4 7:44 Wilbert Haag (CB/R) returns the ball, he is too fast, nobody can stop him from making the score, this was a 35 yards interception return touchdown (3-4-4 vs. Pro set) more

Q4 6:56 P.J. Landers (MLB) returns the ball, Gary Wheeler (WR/L) is tackling him, this was a 17 yards interception return (3-4-4 vs. Pro set) more

Q4 5:46 P.J. Landers (MLB) returns the ball, missed tackle by Shane Libby (TE/R), this was a 28 yards interception return touchdown (3-4-4 vs. Pro set) more

That's 7 Ints, 7 TDs, and 414 yards of returns by MLB1.
That's 5 Ints, 4 TDs, and 160 yards of returns by MLB2.
All defenders combined, 18 Ints, 17 DefTDs.

I think we could consider this the "worst case scenario" as my opponent looks to have thrown Pro Set - All directions - Medium distance, for the entire game. Still I wouldn't exactly expect results this loopy from a 67% team playing a 71% team?

Seems like TD returns might still be a bit too high in engine v4.46, or perhaps just an example of what happens when the play selection is 100% the same formation/distance and reaches maximum "thumbs down" territory?

*edit - that was also my backup defenders ... just in case someone looks at my current %'s and wonders, for that game it was 71%*

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posted: 2018-08-25 21:18:10 (ID: 100132166) Report Abuse
Gambler75 wrote:
...just an example of what happens when the play selection is 100% the same formation/distance and reaches maximum "thumbs down" territory?

combined with a worse roster in terms of skills and some more "disfunctions". He could have called "Punt all game long" and it would have been the same...

At the end of the day such an engine is a pile of math. If X > Y do this or that. Now, if X is ALWAYS greater than Y because the range of the involved RNG was consumed by too many bad decisions...what should such an engine do...
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posted: 2018-09-16 11:45:13 (ID: 100132718) Report Abuse
After all the changes does it still make sense to train carrying for a defense player ? I always did to benefit from fumble or interception returns thinking it made a difference. Now I am not so sure any more.
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posted: 2018-09-16 12:13:05 (ID: 100132723) Report Abuse
I won't answer the question directly, but would like to write about a similar situation.

You have 2 QBs, one having tackling, another one missing tackling. The guys throws an interception...who has the higher chance of tackling the interceptor before this sucker could turn the interception into a score?

Yes, it makes sense to have additional skills on the training plan...
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posted: 2018-09-16 12:32:28 (ID: 100132726) Report Abuse
About your example, my QBs throw no interceptions. Never. Ever. So I have no idea what you are saying.


Just kidding.

Thank you !
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