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| posted: 2019-03-05 19:39:18 (ID: 100137241) Report Abuse | |
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The age thing is kind of obvious and reflects real life. Players in the NFL cannot play in theor forties, except a few. Players in semi pro league are more often a little bit older, and sunday afternoon football in the part is played by 50+ people.
Elite means more issues, more stress, les recovery, earlier retirement. |
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posted: 2019-03-05 19:59:12 (ID: 100137242) Report Abuse |
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but in real life players do not gain skill over the years and are the best players the moment before they retire so you cant really compare to real life.
This game is a competition and the player devellopment is the best part of the game. If you cut the player duration short, because the managers success, what point to put in the extra mile and compete in a game  I am pretty sure that more guys would quit because of that change than it would motivate others
Why don't you start with stop giving the most successfull teams the most money. NFL teams do not get extra income becase of on field succcess I can spent 1 to 1.5 Mills per week on my team due to playoff income. |
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| posted: 2019-03-05 20:05:25 (ID: 100137243) Report Abuse | |
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hollyhh2000 wrote:
Why don't you start with stop giving the most successfull teams the most money. This is partly addresses with change #2 of my suggestions. But please remember: all my attempts to raise costs for successful teams (aka luxury taxes - however you call it) were shot down in the past. Cutting off playoff money as example might be good on Elite, in D2 it would just kill teams. We could another thing to #2: we could raise the salaries during PO weeks for those teams being in the competition. We could raise it by different margins based on league levels... |
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posted: 2019-03-05 20:15:33 (ID: 100137244) Report Abuse |
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And the teams on the top are at the top because they put in more, not because they have been here longer.
There are so few teams actually game planning, why penalize those who do and thus are successfull. However, simplifying the game engine has always been shut down by the community. On the other hand, it is so easy for succesfull teams to get a hand on excellent talent (drafties from bots and then put them in your YA) using the extra money from playoff success |
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| posted: 2019-03-05 20:32:10 (ID: 100137247) Report Abuse | |
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hollyhh2000 wrote:
And the teams on the top are at the top because they put in more, not because they have been here longer. There are so few teams actually game planning, why penalize those who do and thus are successfull. However, simplifying the game engine has always been shut down by the community. On the other hand, it is so easy for succesfull teams to get a hand on excellent talent (drafties from bots and then put them in your YA) using the extra money from playoff success If we call for "penalizing" each time we discuss changes, we will never reach consensus |
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posted: 2019-03-05 20:47:50 (ID: 100137249) Report Abuse |
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pete wrote:
For the top 8 teams in Elite players decide to leave beginning from 26. The midrange 16 teams lose their players from 28. The bottom 8 teams and top 16 teams of level one start retiring players with 29 and so on. Do you know a better way to describe this, than penalty |
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| posted: 2019-03-05 20:50:02 (ID: 100137250) Report Abuse | |
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hollyhh2000 wrote:
pete wrote:
For the top 8 teams in Elite players decide to leave beginning from 26. The midrange 16 teams lose their players from 28. The bottom 8 teams and top 16 teams of level one start retiring players with 29 and so on. Do you know a better way to describe this, than penalty Hm...way of life 
What's wrong in retiring players earlier if they have to spend more time on field? |
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| posted: 2019-03-05 20:54:25 (ID: 100137251) Report Abuse | |
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Interesting approach regarding the earlier retirement, in combination with some of them asking for a bonus to continue this could be challanging, but this would from my point of view lower the acceptance, since a manager does invest to much time to train a player that it's tough to let him go early.
On the other hand it does increase the challange to field a competitive team. Rgerding wage I still think the players should become just FA and then the market will burn the money, but that's also a tough change. Maybe a more deversed training and a more gauss curve skill development would help. Maybe in combination with the game toll by high level games. So playing low level and the gauss curve is lower or declines later, while on elite level the decline starts earlier or gets heavier. Maybe with some exceptions or physical freak skills so not all do the same. |
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| posted: 2019-03-05 20:58:31 (ID: 100137252) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse | |
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Well I don't see or support ending playoff incomes...
Don't penalize teams for success. Also don't make it easier for less well managed teams to succeed. You want a winning team than build one. There is so much surplus talent around anymore. Draft players are high experience - the TM is flooded with high skill players that can be had very cheaply compared to many seasons ago. The one thing I would like to see is player skill have a little more influence on game outcomes.. Just like in RL. I would love to see ELITE go to 5 teams per division - that would pretty much makes sure 11-5 teams don't get relegated... Last edited on 2019-03-05 21:00:43 by punch drunk |
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posted: 2019-03-05 21:02:23 (ID: 100137253) Report Abuse |
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pete wrote:
hollyhh2000 wrote:
pete wrote:
For the top 8 teams in Elite players decide to leave beginning from 26. The midrange 16 teams lose their players from 28. The bottom 8 teams and top 16 teams of level one start retiring players with 29 and so on. Do you know a better way to describe this, than penalty Hm...way of life
What's wrong in retiring players earlier if they have to spend more time on field? player devellopment and seeing those players accumulate stats is imo the most fun part of the game, and early retirements (even at 30) is a bummer especially considering that unlike real life the players get better the older they get. And then knowing that success on the field will lead to evan earlier retirement would demotivate me a lot. I just think there are better areas to level the playing field. |
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