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Mücke
posted: 2018-11-21 11:22:33 (ID: 100134595) Report Abuse
Thx, Dude, you nailed it! Always good to have a Drogon in the house.

The full list goes:

Highest paid skill__Asking price
1-15____________5,000
16-20___________7,500
21-25__________10,000
26-30__________50,000
31-35_________200,000
36-40_________500,000
41-45________1,000,000
46-50________2,500,000


Adjusted to the Proposal:

Highest paid skill______________Asking price_______
____________________min__________________max
1-15_______________5,000_________________5,000
16-20______________7,500_________________7,500
21-25_____________10,000________________10,000
26-30_____________50,000________________50,000
31-35_____________50,000_______________200,000
36-40_____________50,000_______________500,000
41-45_____________50,000______________1,000,000
46-50_____________50,000______________2,500,000


min/max is the value the selling manager would be able to choose from.


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Further ideas to reanimate TM and open for discussion:

- Free Agents on TM during Off-Season only
- reduced wage-claims for TM players
- ...
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PJRAVENS
posted: 2018-11-21 13:12:45 (ID: 100134599) Report Abuse
This
- Free Agents on TM during Off-Season only
in my opinion could not work because of the newcomers.
If a manager start to play RZA Sx in week1 he could not buy a free agent till the end of the season...
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hollyhh2000
posted: 2018-11-21 13:20:24 (ID: 100134600) Report Abuse
PJRAVENS wrote:
This
- Free Agents on TM during Off-Season only
in my opinion could not work because of the newcomers.
If a manager start to play RZA Sx in week1 he could not buy a free agent till the end of the season...


all FA not signed by a team during offseason could be in a pool free to sign by any team
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PJRAVENS
posted: 2018-11-21 14:42:09 (ID: 100134602)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
I like me too the idea of a short market window, it means high competition and planning.

I am not sure I understood your point...
It seems to me that in the pool will remain only low quality players after the offseason free agent market and the pool will be available for all managers like now the whole season

I am playing to RZA on regular basis like you I suppose.
At the moment free agents enter in the market every RZA week, if a manager miss a week two or more he has other 20 weeks to try to buy a free agent of the same quality of the previous missed.

Reducing the time to buy free agent in offseason only means that if a manager miss the offseason period he has to wait a whole season.
It would be more or less like the draft, but in the draft at least you automatically pick three players ... for sure not the best ones, but the same number of your opponents.

Last edited on 2018-11-21 14:45:56 by PJRAVENS

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Jonny Utah
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posted: 2018-11-21 16:36:10 (ID: 100134604) Report Abuse
Mücke wrote:
Thx, Dude, you nailed it! Always good to have a Drogon in the house.

The full list goes:

Highest paid skill__Asking price
1-15____________5,000
16-20___________7,500
21-25__________10,000
26-30__________50,000
31-35_________200,000
36-40_________500,000
41-45________1,000,000
46-50________2,500,000


Adjusted to the Proposal:

Highest paid skill______________Asking price_______
____________________min__________________max
1-15_______________5,000_________________5,000
16-20______________7,500_________________7,500
21-25_____________10,000________________10,000
26-30_____________50,000________________50,000
31-35_____________50,000_______________200,000
36-40_____________50,000_______________500,000
41-45_____________50,000______________1,000,000
46-50_____________50,000______________2,500,000


min/max is the value the selling manager would be able to choose from.

- ...

My worry about this is it could be used so experienced managers can get rid of players, without having to cut them and pay them any money, by selling them to less experienced managers who can't afford their wages.
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hollyhh2000
posted: 2018-11-21 17:09:11 (ID: 100134605) Report Abuse
PJRAVENS wrote:
I like me too the idea of a short market window, it means high competition and planning.

I am not sure I understood your point...
It seems to me that in the pool will remain only low quality players after the offseason free agent market and the pool will be available for all managers like now the whole season

I am playing to RZA on regular basis like you I suppose.
At the moment free agents enter in the market every RZA week, if a manager miss a week two or more he has other 20 weeks to try to buy a free agent of the same quality of the previous missed.

Reducing the time to buy free agent in offseason only means that if a manager miss the offseason period he has to wait a whole season.
It would be more or less like the draft, but in the draft at least you automatically pick three players ... for sure not the best ones, but the same number of your opponents.


the offseason is the time when most managers plan their team and have a need at certain position, so even now the activity on the transfer market is higher as normal.

I think the way it is now with a couple of gems showing up each day gives those of us who check everyday way more advantage as there are just few competitors (and mostly the same teams) so prices are down for some real gems.

So managers with not so much time but lots of money on hand (we have many of those) could use their budget to buy the best available players and so we may have more parity as for me, the draft has become nearly meaningless as I pick usually late and I get draft like players repeatedly as FA draftees during the seasons
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Mücke
posted: 2018-11-21 20:45:47 (ID: 100134613) Report Abuse
On Initial Ask-Price:

Jonny Utah wrote:
My worry about this is it could be used so experienced managers can get rid of players, without having to cut them and pay them any money, by selling them to less experienced managers who can't afford their wages.


I dont have these concerns, Jonny. New managers got told to watch out for their finances. And I think most of them know that. I mean, they found a franchise as a Owner/GM. Finances is first and last priority. But even if they got trapped by this, one must say: Better they have learned this lesson sooner than later.

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Meitheisman
posted: 2018-11-21 20:54:16 (ID: 100134615) Report Abuse
The high asking prices are there to make it hard to sell players with high salaries, IMO easier team management decisions is the last thing we need.
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Jonny Utah
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posted: 2018-11-21 21:10:47 (ID: 100134616) Report Abuse
Mücke wrote:
On Initial Ask-Price:

Jonny Utah wrote:
My worry about this is it could be used so experienced managers can get rid of players, without having to cut them and pay them any money, by selling them to less experienced managers who can't afford their wages.


I dont have these concerns, Jonny. New managers got told to watch out for their finances. And I think most of them know that. I mean, they found a franchise as a Owner/GM. Finances is first and last priority. But even if they got trapped by this, one must say: Better they have learned this lesson sooner than later.


I'm not saying we should bubble wrap the new guys, i just don't believe, and this is entirely from my own perspective, that dropping the starting price will make a player seem more worth while to the teams that can afford their wages. I just think if someone can't afford the current starting bids for players then they can't afford their wages either, so what's the point?
I would be interested in a starting bid based on their estimated wage though maybe? So starting bid equals estimated wage times X (i've not thought on what X should be).
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Mücke
posted: 2018-11-21 21:53:02 (ID: 100134618)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
The proposal was made with the intention to give junior manager full participation on TM, if you allow it (by choosig the lower starting price). If you dont like the min price, you can choose the max price, and nothing changes for you.

But, I let it be good; I dont see a future for this. To much protest, without solid backed-up arguments, against a thing that do no harm.

Last edited on 2018-11-21 22:03:13 by Mücke

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