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badgers
posted: 2019-08-20 14:05:15 (ID: 100142261) Report Abuse
Before I even get started with this post, I know that it will be a very controversial one that should get a lot of responses. Knowing that, I want to remind everyone that this is a game and not something to get over-worked-up about. Please keep your cool when responding.



Now to get into the suggestion. I would like to propose that the amount of regions be reduced from eight to six, at a minimum. This is in an effort to reduce the amount of BOT teams in Div. 1 leagues, and make the game more competitive overall. Pete, I know this would be a bit of coding hell as you'd have to restructure the whole Elite promotion/relegation. That obviously isn't going to stop me from suggesting this and is something we can discuss as to how it would be best implemented.
I know there is a fair amount of pride in our respective regions, and rivalries have been built up over the years and seasons. I know this will probably be the most controversial part of this suggestion, and I agree that I don't want to be separated from my Fire managers. This is another thing we can discuss, how to work around rivalries and region pride.
As a last talking point, I'm going to bring up an idea that was suggested a while back but shot down pretty fast, and that is for an intermediate league to be set up in between Div. 1 and Elite as kind of a stepping-stone for teams that aren't good enough to play in Elite but destroy in Div. 1. I'm not sure I myself like that idea, but I would be willing to have that brought into play if needed.

As a recap, here are the major talking points of this suggestion:
1. Yes or No, do you support cutting down the amount of regions being cut down from eight to six, or even fewer and why.
2. How would you suggest dealing with rivalries and region pride.
3. Would you support an intermediate league in between Div. 1 and Elite to have better overall competition throughout.

Another friendly reminder, these are much better to use than these when talking about other people. Stay friendly, my friends.
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PJRAVENS
posted: 2019-08-20 14:28:14 (ID: 100142263)  Edits found: 5 Report Abuse
1. Yes or No, do you support cutting down the amount of regions being cut down from eight to six, or even fewer and why.
Yes from 8 to 4.
2. How would you suggest dealing with rivalries and region pride.
It would be merge two region (L1+L1 / L2+L2) in one (four times).
This preserve the rivalries because all teams in the same region now will be in the same region after.
3. Would you support an intermediate league in between Div. 1 and Elite to have better overall competition throughout.
Yes 2 leagues.

So we will have 1 elite 2 intermediate 4 L1 8 L2 (as I suggested in the past)
But in the same time I think it would be a big or maybe huge effort in coding...

Last edited on 2019-08-20 15:04:22 by PJRAVENS

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badgers
posted: 2019-08-20 14:34:54 (ID: 100142264) Report Abuse
PJRAVENS wrote:
3. Would you support an intermediate league in between Div. 1 and Elite to have better overall competition throughout.
Yes 2 leagues.

So we will have 1 elite 2 inermediate 4 L1 8 L2 (as I suggested in the past)


Not sure I would support 2 intermediate leagues just based on numbers. I will do some digging and find out how the numbers will work out and post them here.
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PJRAVENS
posted: 2019-08-20 14:40:04 (ID: 100142265)  Edits found: 2 Report Abuse
From the point of view of coding working using power of two is easiest. (2^3 = 8 / 2^2 = 4 / 2^1 = 2 / 2^0 = 1)
In This way for example the promotion/relegation algorithm would be the same for all league levels.

1 x 32 + 2 x 32 + 4 x 32 + 8 x 32 = 480 users.

Last edited on 2019-08-20 14:44:56 by PJRAVENS

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badgers
posted: 2019-08-20 16:55:15 (ID: 100142271) Report Abuse
Okay, so I did a few calculations and this is what I found. We have 321 active managers in RZA. If we go with PJRAVENS' proposal, the league table would look like this:

Elite (1 league, 32 teams): full (no surprise there)
Intermediate leagues (2 leagues, 64 teams): full
Division 1 (4 leagues, 128 teams): full
Division 2 (8 leagues, 256 teams): 97 teams (3 leagues full, 1 league with 1 team)

Given those calculations, I would support a move like this because the competition would be greater overall. Teams would get better, and this game would be even more fun than it already is. That being said, I think on the Division 2 side we would have to only have as many leagues open as we need. In this case, I think we would only need 4 leagues to be open for competition. 3 of them would be full, and the final one would have 31 spots open. I think this would benefit the game tremendously.
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dumpling
posted: 2019-08-20 17:26:02 (ID: 100142272) Report Abuse
Many people chose their league based on the game kick off time
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badgers
posted: 2019-08-20 17:28:42 (ID: 100142273) Report Abuse
Then maybe we could have flexible scheduling for league games.
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linkleo911
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posted: 2019-08-20 17:35:52 (ID: 100142275) Report Abuse
badgers wrote:
Then maybe we could have flexible scheduling for league games.


Each manager choose his own home schedule for the entire season. Something like the Supercup matches.

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badgers
posted: 2019-08-20 17:39:47 (ID: 100142276) Report Abuse
linkleo911 wrote:
badgers wrote:
Then maybe we could have flexible scheduling for league games.


Each manager choose his own home schedule for the entire season. Something like the Supercup matches.



That's not really what I meant as far as flexible scheduling goes. I meant being able to change just kickoff times, not venues. Each team needs to have eight home games and eight away games in the league schedule. I don't think we would be able to have each manager choose their own home schedule for that reason.
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Drogon
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posted: 2019-08-20 17:59:02 (ID: 100142277) Report Abuse
1. Yes or No, do you support cutting down the amount of regions being cut down from eight to six, or even fewer and why.
2. How would you suggest dealing with rivalries and region pride.


1. Today I say no because I haven't seen any argument to convince me less regions would be better, and obviously what would be better.

3. Would you support an intermediate league in between Div. 1 and Elite to have better overall competition throughout.

An "intermediate league in between Div. 1 and Elite" means Elite, and a league below Elite, and another league below, right ?
That's what we have, Elite, and a league below Elite (L1), and another league below (L2).
So, again, no support today because I do not see how changing names would mean "better overall competition throughout".


Does an "intermediate league in between Div. 1 and Elite" necessarily have to go with "cutting down the amount of regions" ?
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