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| posted: 2023-11-30 18:48:23 (ID: 100179241) Report Abuse | |
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pete wrote:
@All: please let managers believe what they want to. If one says the sim engine is random, let it be that way. It makes no sense to argue against such opinions. Because there is no evidence that one manager outplayed other one with PB with two lines. |
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| posted: 2023-11-30 18:58:56 (ID: 100179242) Report Abuse | |
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@All: please let managers believe what they want to. If one says the sim engine is random, let it be that way. It makes no sense to argue against such opinions.
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| posted: 2023-11-30 22:46:35 (ID: 100179243) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse | |
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pete wrote:
@All: please let managers believe what they want to. If one says the sim engine is random, let it be that way. It makes no sense to argue against such opinions. So for now on we must keep our thoughts to ourselves? We can't have a discussion in discussion forum? Great Pete, great running of the forum. Last edited on 2023-11-30 23:32:29 by Dumbarajko |
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| posted: 2023-12-01 00:20:44 (ID: 100179244) Report Abuse | |
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Dumbarajko wrote:
pete wrote:
@All: please let managers believe what they want to. If one says the sim engine is random, let it be that way. It makes no sense to argue against such opinions. So for now on we must keep our thoughts to ourselves? We can't have a discussion in discussion forum? The conjecture that you make about the game engine and PBs is one that we can't prove one way or the other. You have taken a view as a matter of faith and others have taken a different view, and that has been repeated endlessly for 11 pages of thread. In my opinion, Pete is perhaps proposing that after 11 pages of repetition, and facing that something that cannot be proven one way or the other, perhaps we should agree to disagree and 'put the conversation to bed'. |
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| posted: 2023-12-01 07:54:14 (ID: 100179246) Report Abuse | |
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JohnHW wrote:
Dumbarajko wrote:
pete wrote:
@All: please let managers believe what they want to. If one says the sim engine is random, let it be that way. It makes no sense to argue against such opinions. So for now on we must keep our thoughts to ourselves? We can't have a discussion in discussion forum? The conjecture that you make about the game engine and PBs is one that we can't prove one way or the other. You have taken a view as a matter of faith and others have taken a different view, and that has been repeated endlessly for 11 pages of thread. In my opinion, Pete is perhaps proposing that after 11 pages of repetition, and facing that something that cannot be proven one way or the other, perhaps we should agree to disagree and 'put the conversation to bed'. I will quote Pete post earlier in this thread: "Before we create some misunderstandings and I am completely lost: We are talking about a game bwteen UKAndy and Jinto, where Jinto is clearly the stronger team based on material on field, while completely having no orders for offense and defense in terms of a playbook. Not a single line ... So, talent was beaten by tactics. I am fine with that, and do not see something strange" Tactics = offensive playbook with 2 lines (where first line is used 95% of time) I don't call that a tactics. If the stronger team set its defensive playbook with one line, all the time with 4-3-4 defense it would mean that it had tactics and he would play better than having no lines and playing 4-3-4 on default? I can't see aby difference with those two cases. I can't see a difference in those two since you play one tactic all the time, but maybe I am blind and stupid. So, I am aware that good PB can give you an advantage over stronger teams, we seen that so many times, but Shotgun 4WR pass all the time playbook is not a playbook. Not going to write anymore, since it is better to be quiet than to have arguments to try to make this game better. |
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| posted: 2023-12-01 12:01:25 (ID: 100179247) Report Abuse | |
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I was making a statement so that your post, Dumbarajko, has a counterperspective to it - since it could be misleading someone not reading the whole discussion. Sadly, it was the last post on that page, so I repeated it.
Watch your tone, Dumbarajko. If you cannot handle a discussion without accussations, your days in the forum here are counted, permanent. |
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| posted: 2023-12-01 12:11:32 (ID: 100179248) Report Abuse | |
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Dumbarajko wrote:
Not going to write anymore, since it is better to be quiet than to have arguments to try to make this game better. And of course this is rubbish. Everyone is invited to discuss. Conditions: - be kind of polite - accept that other people might have differing opinions - follow the given rules |
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| posted: 2023-12-01 12:18:53 (ID: 100179249) Report Abuse | |
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Just out of curiosity I did run one scrimmage with
Team a being my starters, a no-rule-playbook on offense and defense Team b being by trainee (filled up with ramdom selected starters, since the depth chart is filled to 55), with that pass-happy, 1-yard-to-go, always fg-try on 4th playbook and a standard defense playbook. Team b won 52:3. That's of course NOT equal to the game which was discussed, but my feeling is, what Team a lacks most is likely that lerning feature on defense. Peter, does a defense on BOT-mode learn, like the defense on a playbook? Because if not, the 4-3-4 is likely every 2 play off-guard when defensing run and the team passes. |
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| posted: 2023-12-01 12:21:59 (ID: 100179250) Report Abuse | |
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A bot team cannot "learn". It is truly a random bunch of guys, being happy to have one play, forget, another play, forget ...
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| posted: 2023-12-01 12:33:06 (ID: 100179251) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse | |
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pete wrote:
A bot team cannot "learn". It is truly a random bunch of guys, being happy to have one play, forget, another play, forget ... Do they still have that 'run' or 'pass' mindset on a play or some sort of 'watch for everything' which might even be worse than a clear mindset? Last edited on 2023-12-01 12:33:16 by jack6 |
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