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lagoman
posted: 2023-12-14 14:19:17 (ID: 100179560) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Basiclly, I see no true reason to invest bigger amounts of time into it, right now. As pointed out before, and again today, nothing stops managers from sharing playbooks with each other.


Fair point.
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posted: 2023-12-14 14:25:45 (ID: 100179561) Report Abuse
lagoman wrote:
Then, we can finally re-open the argument again: is a 2 line playbook, a real playbook?



If one can pull a win with it, it is a playbook.
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posted: 2023-12-14 15:02:16 (ID: 100179565) Report Abuse

Absolutely.
Very simple, single-celled amoeba level, but PB.



lagoman wrote:
Then, we can finally re-open the argument again: is a 2 line playbook, a real playbook?
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posted: 2023-12-14 21:28:06 (ID: 100179569) Report Abuse
lagoman wrote:

Then, we can finally re-open the argument again: is a 2 line playbook, a real playbook?


Here is the big secret, I play since several season with a SIX-line-Playbook.
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posted: 2023-12-15 09:39:20 (ID: 100179570) Report Abuse
Seems we need a "fuel into the fire" emoticon ...
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posted: 2023-12-15 11:03:40 (ID: 100179572) Report Abuse
Just checked the setup out of curriosity:

I use that playbook, six lines, since season 39.
League-Championships: season 39, 49
Conference Championship: season 39, 49, 52
Elite: season 40, 50, 53

It took me through the whole rebuild of my team between season 41 and 49 and I did not change as fas as I remember a single line.

And on top, in the situation which was the initiation of that thread, it would kick a FG.
Why? Because according to my expierence, the chances of throwing a successful hail mary are quite equal to forcing a fumble or an INT. So I don't bother.
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posted: 2023-12-15 12:28:10 (ID: 100179573) Report Abuse
jack6 wrote:
Here is the big secret, I play since several season with a SIX-line-Playbook.


Since you had good, maybe even great results with just 6 lines PB, do you think it is time to change chapter 16 - playbook?

Just a thought 🤔
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posted: 2023-12-15 14:50:59 (ID: 100179574) Report Abuse
Dumbarajko wrote:
jack6 wrote:
Here is the big secret, I play since several season with a SIX-line-Playbook.


Since you had good, maybe even great results with just 6 lines PB, do you think it is time to change chapter 16 - playbook?

Just a thought 🤔

The chapter is to decribe the options, what you do with those is up to the manager. I went extreme, likely, but that option is also hidden in the text.
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posted: 2023-12-17 15:00:59 (ID: 100179598) Report Abuse
jack6 wrote:
Just checked the setup out of curriosity:

I use that playbook, six lines, since season 39.
League-Championships: season 39, 49
Conference Championship: season 39, 49, 52
Elite: season 40, 50, 53

It took me through the whole rebuild of my team between season 41 and 49 and I did not change as fas as I remember a single line.

And on top, in the situation which was the initiation of that thread, it would kick a FG.
Why? Because according to my expierence, the chances of throwing a successful hail mary are quite equal to forcing a fumble or an INT. So I don't bother.

so Jack with a 6 point defeat in under a minute, of play, You would take a FG, as playbook rule, I would rather try a TD to take to OT, or TD Point After, to Win, But that is me wanting a Win or bust { already beat so why not?} As I started this then many lines have been seen.. I still ask - Why a HC or a QB could not try the TD pass/ run. on 4thDown. Let me show you WHY- the young new team are now looking at a chance to win Division and Play Off games- if they had won that game. if they come up short because the Match they had a chance to win , was taken away by a FG rather than a { pick6- fumble- interception } Play..
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posted: 2023-12-17 17:34:08 (ID: 100179604)  Edits found: 2 Report Abuse
G4ngsta wrote:
jack6 wrote:
Just checked the setup out of curiosity:

I use that playbook, six lines, since season 39.
League-Championships: season 39, 49
Conference Championship: season 39, 49, 52
Elite: season 40, 50, 53

It took me through the whole rebuild of my team between season 41 and 49 and I did not change as far as I remember a single line.

And on top, in the situation which was the initiation of that thread, it would kick a FG.
Why? Because according to my experience, the chances of throwing a successful Hail Mary are quite equal to forcing a fumble or an INT. So I don't bother.

so Jack with a 6 point defeat in under a minute, of play, You would take a FG, as playbook rule, I would rather try a TD to take to OT, or TD Point After, to Win, But that is me wanting a Win or bust { already beat so why not?} As I started this then many lines have been seen.. I still ask - Why a HC or a QB could not try the TD pass/ run. on 4thDown. Let me show you WHY- the young new team are now looking at a chance to win Division and Play Off games- if they had won that game. if they come up short because the Match they had a chance to win , was taken away by a FG rather than a { pick6- fumble- interception } Play..


The background here is that if we chose to take an action in our playbook, we have also chosen to not do the alternative action. The point being made by Pete is that we already have the choice to set it up as either a kick or a run/pass in the playbook. Why should the game engine 'audible' a change when we have specifically decided to do something else?

Sure thing that if this happens and it doesn't work, we would shout many bad words to Pete about a bug in the game!

Last edited on 2023-12-17 17:35:17 by JohnHW

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