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| posted: 2024-01-31 09:50:06 (ID: 100180850) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse | |
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Radu, I share your gut feeling - the idea not gonna ring well in Pete's ears
That's why I wrote to you my arguments regarding nationality by pm not here. Not worthy the space. But I still think (apparently shared by Jack6, too) it's a valid one. Just as a mind game, though, I think one possible solution to the problem I presented, with the overstacked nationalities would be as follows: Monica Seles might change her passport to the US passport, might even change her name, but for the World Cup organisers she would still qualify to play only for Yugoslavia team. Or Serbia. Or Hungary - I am not talking about _her_, only explaining my point. Of course that solution would require that the game would keep track of each players _original_ national assignment. Jan Kowalski of Poland, who is now with the US passport as John Koval? Sorry, of both National Eagles you can only play for the white one with the golden crown ;-) I think it would be a good and clever solution. I don't think it would consume too much space. But it would require one more change to already complex game engine, and thus one more reason for Pete to cross this topic as "rejected" ;-) Last edited on 2024-01-31 09:51:46 by jpnwrt |
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| posted: 2024-01-31 09:59:37 (ID: 100180851) Report Abuse | |
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Yes, there are a lot of things which need to be evaluated here.
It's great if you have 3-4 Polish teams (as example) and the managers coaches all players and you just call up the best players on every position from their teams. But also, it's not so great when you have a NT, that has only 1 active manager or even worse no manager at all (This will be a boot team bye the way), because you don't have from where to get players. Sure Jack, as always has a good ideas and even your ideea is great with keeping track of players from their origin (you can have 2 or 3 nationalities, no problem), but the time frame just doesn't allow us to have this NTs. As Kanar said, most of us played G I, even Pete i think, so if he would loved the idea of the NTs, he would have created it a long time ago. |
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| posted: 2024-01-31 10:41:58 (ID: 100180852) Report Abuse | |
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jack6 wrote:
I stated for ME that concept is idiotic Wow, that sentence is very, very disrespectful to the people who like the idea. 
Yet, even if I did not want to launch a debate, I will answer the first part of your post. jack6 wrote:
a) sure nobody is losing something, still I would feel second best, if there is a 'global' competition I did not even had a choice to play in. b) fine I could try to manage one of those NTs, maybe even for a different country, but there is still the flaw jpnwrt did mention, that several nations are overstacked with teams, hence players, and others are not. And to be slightly competitive the list of countries with a realistic shot gets very short. So now as say 16th or 21st interested manager I have to deal with a NT of Burkina Faso or Greenland. c) fine, I did go for Greenland and did setup everything, got the opinion of the less than a handful of managers playing with Greenland-flag and then play the meaningless games. But while doing so, there night be BOT-status coming and some of my players do vanish. A/ Gosh I am tired with that mindset of "I can not do it, so you should not do it". And actually, it all depends of the rules that would be implemanted. But you would definitly have a chance to play it. You could candidate to play as the German HC (and have a chance to get the job based on your experience and popularity among the German managers) or apply for another country. And again, even if your not the manager, you can be heavily involved in the player selection process and even in the tactic to apply or the scouting of the opponent. IN my opinion, one of the main interrest of this event is to make opponents collaborate for once and develop a different aspect of the game. B/ Isn't it the case in any Friendly cup without power mode? Or in any real life competition? When you can not win a competition, it does not mean you should not participate and try to do your best with what you got. Otherwise, many managers including you should just tank at the beginning of each Elite season and French people should give up playing tennis... C/ Players from BOT teams are not vanishing before rollover. Look at my French NT, 2 or 3 players are from a bot team. I agree that they may vanish at the end of this season, but it is all about how the competition is planned. Make it on Wednesday and Sunday and in 3 weeks the competition is done. You could even code it so you have a game every day. And you could even block them to retire if they are selected in a NT, similarly to pete blocking a player to be sold in his final year before retirement. Just to be clear, I am not suggesting to have this WC implemented in RZA. I already did and it has been dismissed. I am sharing what would be the French team if we had it and I would like to see other managers do the same job to compare strenghts. |
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| posted: 2024-01-31 11:24:19 (ID: 100180853) Edits found: 3 Report Abuse | |
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to all: Too much heat.
Who of you guys was NT in that other game? I was the German NT, and I was able to "abuse" quite some other German fellows in the process of scouting, finding players, making decisions. But most NTs did not. So yes, there might be some love for such a feature. And yes, it was a fun ride. Most fun was to have the Badgers in the small final, and mock that freakin idiot of an admin over there by going for all rush. This was the time, we established DRS to be a valid team name 
Did I like this experience? Yes. Would I repeat this again? Surely not. Will it ever come into RZA? For sure not, because of the reasons jack6 and I share. BR, Pete Last edited on 2024-02-01 15:35:00 by pete |
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| posted: 2024-01-31 13:35:47 (ID: 100180856) Report Abuse | |
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As last words from me on this and then i will not post here again, promised.
a) I did never state at any time, "I can not do it, so you should not do it". I did state clearly my opionion on the concept. If this concept would come to be, fine, play it, do it, enjoy it. I don't care and I'm for sure not needed. b) I accept the comment on my 3rd line regarding BOT players, they might not valish, but would just stop being trained, which is also not good. The other comments are from my point of view not valid, since they do not touch the point I tried to show, that I like concepts where everyone can participate with a chance to win. Because I deeply believe only that would help to have the community more active than now. That concept presented would from my point of view only decrease the community activity, because of the reasons I did state. Yes a few managers would have more to do and manage, but the majority not. Everyone can different view on this, or course. c) I love and respect EVERY manager who organize something special. Because that helps to make the game more attractive. |
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| posted: 2024-02-01 00:04:11 (ID: 100180866) Edits found: 2 Report Abuse | |
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I share pete and jack views. I was the Brazil NT manager for several seasons on TOG. It was nice at the beginning but with the lack of teams and players that got really boring...
pete wrote:
to all: Too much heat. Who of you guys was NT in that other game? I was the German NT, and I was able to "abuse" quite some other German fellows in the process of scouting, finding players, making decisions. But most NTs did not. So yes, there might be some love for such a feature. And yes, it was a fun ride. Most fun was to have the Badgers in the small final, and mock that freakin idiot of an admin over there by going for all rush. This was the time, we established DRS to be a valid team name
Did I like this experience? Yes. Would I repeat this again? Surely not. Will it ever come into RZA? For sure not, because of the reasons jack6 and I share. BR, Pete Pete was here changing a mistake in the quote Last edited on 2024-02-01 15:35:20 by pete |
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