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| posted: 2024-02-13 12:48:33 (ID: 100181308) Report Abuse | |
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pete wrote:
Radu91 wrote:
pete wrote:
Guys, please stop posting that you would add players to the transfer market, no matter what intention is behind it. Cheers Sorry Pete 
But i didn't advertised any transfer. I was speaking what i considered regarding players on the TM and what could sell best. So don't know why you erased my post. If I let it slip through - no matter of your personal intention - others might feel welcome to go a step further. Cannot do that ... Ok. Understand. |
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| posted: 2024-02-16 01:15:47 (ID: 100181437) Report Abuse | |
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the experiment sold for only 500k and was 50/50 and a 4 star stud. Can't trust the market at all.
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| posted: 2024-02-16 01:30:57 (ID: 100181438) Report Abuse | |
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If I had to pick one element of this game that I think doesn’t work anymore….it would be the market. With the need to make money and stay competitive you would think the market could be a source.
I understand the supply and demand aspect and that is why the market has tanked. Perhaps cutting back on free agents? I honestly don’t know that even that would resurrect the market. Maybe training accelerating as fast as it does affects the supply side as well? I don’t know, I am just rambling and lamenting |
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| posted: 2024-02-16 07:31:35 (ID: 100181442) Report Abuse | |
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sfniner08 wrote:
If I had to pick one element of this game that I think doesn’t work anymore….it would be the market. How did it work before that makes you state it is not anymore? |
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| posted: 2024-02-16 07:40:42 (ID: 100181445) Report Abuse | |
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You could sell players for larger sums to supplement your income. Just look at the top 100 and note when they occurred.
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| posted: 2024-02-16 08:30:00 (ID: 100181446) Report Abuse | |
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Back in the old days the parameters were different.
a) more players and a longer period a growing manager group. Hence there was a demand on any type of player to get the teams up to strength or to keep it at a certain level. b) slower training progress, hence a developed player was rare and a gem, if you were in need to fix a hole in your roster c) less money as income because of the none-existing mediacenter, but more money overall because of more managers. Hence the max trained skill a player got was often less and by that also the wage you have to pay buying him. And since more managers were there, overall more money was floating around, and new managers got a lot of money in their first few seasons, and that went to the more developed teams when they sell some roster cuts and that money went to high profile prospects. Now we have a shrinking manager base, more training and more money per team, but less overall. The first does mean, less demand overall, the second means you can get your own players faster to a certain point and are not in that need to buy a trained one, the third point means many player are way too expensive in wage for new managers, the few there are, and since less money overall is there, the less money does circle around. Good all economic baseline. There is no easy way to fix this, except maybe having a growing community again, which is unlikely to happen. There were several suggestions on the market and the wage system, but I believe to make it really WORK it must be a radical change, which is a hard piece of work and the success is a bet on the future. |
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| posted: 2024-02-16 09:21:26 (ID: 100181448) Report Abuse | |
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sfniner08 wrote:
the experiment sold for only 500k and was 50/50 and a 4 star stud. Can't trust the market at all. You have to take everything into consideration. He was a 26 year old player, yes 50/50, but low TW (some do care about that aspect), average INT for a LB (as example), no trait (that matters perhaps for some managers). From the EXP and talent point of view he was good. So, perhaps if he was a 20 year old player he would have gone much higher and also (and MOST IMPORTANT) you have to feel the needs of 2 perhaps 3 other managers who need/want that player so they can  for him.
For this player you had only 1 person interested in him. |
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| posted: 2024-02-16 17:03:12 (ID: 100181466) Report Abuse | |
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I don't think we are comparing apples to apples when we look at the Shah transaction and the LB experiment. LBs are easier, not easy, but easier to come by. And Shah has the numbers and traits to be special. Special enough anyway.
I was not here when the market was good, but I will say that reputation of the seller means a lot to me. Often, I will not buy a prospect unless either SPD or STR are at an already acceptable level, or I know that the selling manager only sells quality prospects. Unfortunately, there are many managers, that in my opinion, destroy their credibility and reputation by selling garbage for a few thousand bucks. I am not naming anyone, but I used to get stung a lot back when I needed YA candidates. It is buyer beware, so I beware a lot now. I am not talking about inexperienced managers selling either. You guys know who you are. 
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| posted: 2024-02-16 17:51:08 (ID: 100181467) Report Abuse | |
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Well, in that department i can hive you a little help Boa if the selling managers doesn't post on TM forum and if physical skills are over 35, there is a 90% chance that player has already hit yellow or red.
I never bid for such players, except if i see a mistake (like one skill under 35, or if player has perhaps a good trait, high talent) and i see where it goes. |
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| posted: 2024-02-16 18:01:50 (ID: 100181468) Report Abuse | |
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Radu91 wrote:
Well, in that department i can hive you a little help Boa if the selling managers doesn't post on TM forum and if physical skills are over 35, there is a 90% chance that player has already hit yellow or red. I never bid for such players, except if i see a mistake (like one skill under 35, or if player has perhaps a good trait, high talent) and i see where it goes. All the players I am talking about were advertised. I can't get too upset, but lesson learned. If someone tries to sell a guy that is yellow or red, and they don't say it in the forum when they put the player up for sell, I won't buy from that person again. I can't control what they do, but I can control my choices. |
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