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panoramix
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posted: 2011-11-15 00:35:44 (ID: 16628) Report Abuse |
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Admin wrote:This is question of balancing and fairness. I don't like to see a match of a strong vs a weak team where the strong team goes for 100% blitzes. Such restrictions are necessary, since we do not act live versus the other, and therefore we can't react - like a coach would do
This is a question of freedom: if you want to blitz, you must have the chance to do it; on the other side, if my poor team will encounter a big team that will blitz any time, the football says that I have the weapons to win: lateral runs with open formations and deep throws with I or Big-I. The continuing blitz by LB and SF can make very weak the defense in the backfield and if you have the know-how can be a suicide for a team. BTW: in the NFL at least a single blitz at any snap is almost the standard for many teams. |
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posted: 2011-11-15 06:46:59 (ID: 16633) |
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panoramix wrote:
Admin wrote:This is question of balancing and fairness. I don't like to see a match of a strong vs a weak team where the strong team goes for 100% blitzes. Such restrictions are necessary, since we do not act live versus the other, and therefore we can't react - like a coach would do
This is a question of freedom: if you want to blitz, you must have the chance to do it; on the other side, if my poor team will encounter a big team that will blitz any time, the football says that I have the weapons to win: lateral runs with open formations and deep throws with I or Big-I. The continuing blitz by LB and SF can make very weak the defense in the backfield and if you have the know-how can be a suicide for a team. BTW: in the NFL at least a single blitz at any snap is almost the standard for many teams. You are talking about a freedom we can't provide in such a game. Many things a coach could do are not possible here., This includes, but is not restricted to real time tactical changes and special actions to counter the blitz. Can tell you I had it at 25% at the beginning. But some tests provided a clear picture, that it was too much |
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panoramix
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posted: 2011-11-15 13:49:18 (ID: 16651) Report Abuse |
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Admin wrote:Can tell you I had it at 25% at the beginning. But some tests provided a clear picture, that it was too much
It was too much because blitzing in RZA does not weakens too much the backfield of the defense. But blitzing must have anymore this effect. |
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posted: 2011-11-15 13:56:40 (ID: 16652) |
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We will stick with the current setting, for at least the upcoming season. I need to gather more stats on it, I can't do that in BETA or by simulating some games.
After the season we will see how it goes, and then we can adapt it. I prefer some small steps instead a big one |
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oddball
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posted: 2011-11-17 09:57:33 (ID: 16883) Report Abuse |
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i would definitely prefer blitzing to start out underpowered than overpowered.
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panoramix
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posted: 2011-11-17 12:57:12 (ID: 16891) Report Abuse |
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Pete, please look at this page: NFL Stats
The team that have the lowest number of sacks is Kansas City, with 9 in 9 games; 20 teams of 32 have 20 or more sacks. Blitzing is not an optional, it's a fundamental of the defense! Admin repaired the broken link Last edited on 2011-11-17 15:46:30 by Admin |
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posted: 2011-11-17 15:48:38 (ID: 16894) |
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panoramix wrote:
Blitzing is not an optional, it's a fundamental of the defense! Yep, without any discussion. But, we have to integrate it in small steps. See, the engine development and balancing took 2 years. I can't insert new functionality in such big steps. Therefore you have to deal with smaller ones. We will have blitzing, from season 2. We wont have a full developed super sophisticated blitzing - and this is the downside. |
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slider6
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posted: 2011-11-23 18:52:17 (ID: 17557) Report Abuse |
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A new version of blitzing was uploaded, and activated for Friendlies. Please check your games. Where we are now: 1.) The DEs go heavily for Breakthroughs, as long as they don't get blocked by the OLs 2.) The LB/SF go for blitzing based on Playbooksettings 3.) better playbyplay, DEs will have "Breakthroughs", while LB/SF will have "Blitzes" What's missing: 1.) No collision check on rush with the Rusher if rush was expected by the D 2.) No check if rush/pass is expected at all. The DE/LB/SF should try to find the HB/FB route and go for the rush tackle. At the moment they will attack the QB I have a question about rush plays while blitzing. If I were to blitz a safety or LB, he will just run right past the RB or FB and into the space vacated by that blitzer? Or will the defenders that aren't blitzing adjust their areas of responsibility to include the vacated area of the blitzer? Once you have the "What's missing" implemented, will the blitz just turn into a "run blitz" if its a rushing play? Or if the MLB decides he thinks its going to be a run play, will he switch the defense out of the blitz? |
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posted: 2011-11-23 18:55:28 (ID: 17558) |
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slider6 wrote:
Admin wrote:
A new version of blitzing was uploaded, and activated for Friendlies. Please check your games. Where we are now: 1.) The DEs go heavily for Breakthroughs, as long as they don't get blocked by the OLs 2.) The LB/SF go for blitzing based on Playbooksettings 3.) better playbyplay, DEs will have "Breakthroughs", while LB/SF will have "Blitzes" What's missing: 1.) No collision check on rush with the Rusher if rush was expected by the D 2.) No check if rush/pass is expected at all. The DE/LB/SF should try to find the HB/FB route and go for the rush tackle. At the moment they will attack the QB I have a question about rush plays while blitzing. If I were to blitz a safety or LB, he will just run right past the RB or FB and into the space vacated by that blitzer? Or will the defenders that aren't blitzing adjust their areas of responsibility to include the vacated area of the blitzer? Once you have the "What's missing" implemented, will the blitz just turn into a "run blitz" if its a rushing play? Or if the MLB decides he thinks its going to be a run play, will he switch the defense out of the blitz? The others will "close" the spot of the blitzing player, much more they try to help. Inside the engine this comes down to distance measurement between the defender spots and the blitzer spot. The blitzing is done based of the play assumption, not the playtype that happens. But I do not understand the "will he switch the defense out of the blitz" part  |
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posted: 2011-11-24 09:47:00 (ID: 17608) Report Abuse |
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2.) No check if rush/pass is expected at all. The DE/LB/SF should try to find the HB/FB route and go for the rush tackle. At the moment they will attack the QB The target of blitzer is QB. He is not try to find the HB/FB. But if he have seen HB with the ball at few yards distance, of course, the blitzer don't more try to reach QB.  |
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