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alexshans84
posted: 2011-12-06 10:06:05 (ID: 18984) Report Abuse
Admin wrote:
Turtlemania wrote:
did i miss something?


no

Maybe too much beer when I wrote this...


We have around 750 spots, 450 of them bot teams....450 * 3 draft players = 1350


I don't understand why there's 1350 players from the draft and I can't see them in transfermarket? 1350/around 100 days of the season= there will be 13-14 such players for sell every day
Ah, just read related thread on Suggestions forum. But I still want to say: as now there's almost no chance for users without big stadium (and big money) to buy such player, because of fantastic prices. More cashmore good playersbigger gap between teams, that created on different months or even weeks

Last edited on 2011-12-06 10:34:26 by alexshans84

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Buffalo
posted: 2011-12-06 10:42:34 (ID: 18990) Report Abuse
alexshans84 wrote:
But I still want to say: as now there's almost no chance for users without big stadium (and big money) to buy such player, because of fantastic prices. More cashmore good playersbigger gap between teams, that created on different months or even weeks


Thats absolutly true. So start now to build you stadium until the end of season 2. The rich managers waste their money in Season 2 and you will rule the transfermarket in season 3.

Last edited on 2011-12-06 10:42:53 by Buffalo

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Turtlemania
posted: 2011-12-06 10:54:16 (ID: 18991) Report Abuse
Buffalo wrote:
Thats absolutly true. So start now to build you stadium until the end of season 2. The rich managers waste their money in Season 2 and you will rule the transfermarket in season 3.


It is so entertain to read your post!

My prediction for season 3 is:

There wil be 3 classes!

Class A: Teams who play in CoC Cup in Season 2 which will give them more money as they already have to buy players

Class B:
Teams from season 1 beginning which will qulaify for playoffs in Supercup and make additional money to spend beginning in season 3 ADDITIONAL to - well how much money will you make this season Buffalo without playoffs - around 90 Mill

And if you, me et al. make playoff it will give more moeny even as we have

I made error not put numbers into excel and just for fun spent 10 Mill weeks ago into merchandising - just to have to reinvest because of the "bullshitty" conversion but if i did not have do this i would even have more money already because of full stadium

I do not see more than 10 "new" teams in Supercup Playoffs this season with chance to make money and i think 10 is a very wishful think

Class C:
All the rest off teams

And this will conntinue! Because "you and me and King et al." have money now to spend we will build good temas

and new teams will not even have chance to get good results in league or supercup

and the gap will become more and more bigger

But this already happen so new teams will have to live with and hope for better times

Last edited on 2011-12-06 10:54:47 by Turtlemania

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Buffalo
posted: 2011-12-06 11:02:36 (ID: 18992) Report Abuse
I will generate more than 90 Mio this season. But I will not spend all the money for new players.
I think I will buy 3-4 new player, if I like their name and nationality.

Prizes between 20 and 30 Mio$ for good player is what we can expect during this season. With this prizes each of the good team can buy 2-3 players. So the good players will be distributed to several teams.

And without playing in the playoffs it will be no problem for a team to save 50 Mio$ and for this you will get definitly 2 good players.

But there is the possibility to stay away from the transfermarket and train your team. So you cann have success in 4-5 season instead of 1-2 season.

Everyone can decide what is more fun for him.
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Turtlemania
posted: 2011-12-06 11:08:53 (ID: 18993) Report Abuse
Buffalo wrote:
I will generate more than 90 Mio this season.


Oh sorry when i did hit your pride

I know that it is more around 120 Mill but i did not want to schock the new players
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occam
posted: 2011-12-06 11:22:33 (ID: 18995) Report Abuse
Turtlemania wrote:
Buffalo wrote:
Thats absolutly true. So start now to build you stadium until the end of season 2. The rich managers waste their money in Season 2 and you will rule the transfermarket in season 3.


It is so entertain to read your post!

My prediction for season 3 is:

There wil be 3 classes!

Class A: Teams who play in CoC Cup in Season 2 which will give them more money as they already have to buy players

Class B:
Teams from season 1 beginning which will qulaify for playoffs in Supercup and make additional money to spend beginning in season 3 ADDITIONAL to - well how much money will you make this season Buffalo without playoffs - around 90 Mill

And if you, me et al. make playoff it will give more moeny even as we have

I made error not put numbers into excel and just for fun spent 10 Mill weeks ago into merchandising - just to have to reinvest because of the "bullshitty" conversion but if i did not have do this i would even have more money already because of full stadium

I do not see more than 10 "new" teams in Supercup Playoffs this season with chance to make money and i think 10 is a very wishful think

Class C:
All the rest off teams

And this will conntinue! Because "you and me and King et al." have money now to spend we will build good temas

and new teams will not even have chance to get good results in league or supercup

and the gap will become more and more bigger

But this already happen so new teams will have to live with and hope for better times


This tends to happen with all perpetual league games so I tend to agree with your observation, even though I'm a total noob to redzone. The first players in have a systemic advantage over new players that continues until they get bored and leave.

The 'balance' for the income will have to come down to the contracts and money demanded by the top players. If the player salaries never put much of a burden on the top team, then they will continue to accummulate wealth. If they do put a burden on the top teams, then prepare for a LONG drawn out whine-fest about how the game is 'going down the toilet now' because they can't get all the things they're use too. It's always much easier to give someone something new than take away something they've had. Its just part of human nature.

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occam
posted: 2011-12-06 11:41:06 (ID: 18997) Report Abuse
Actually, in american football, probably the greatest equalizer between teams (in addition to the salary cap of course) is the effect of injuries and flameouts.

The average play life of a running back is 2.7 seasons if I recall the numbers. Even great players can have really off years. It would piss people off something fierce but it does tend to balance things out. You spend 100 million in transfer fees and the guy blows a knee, when then too bad. In other words, "Free Agent" transfers - players dumped into the pool by the computer - have a much higher likelihood of major injury for the first year they are off the wire, whether they play or not.

That is one thing that could help balance things out over time. Low level teams are less likely to loose a high price player simply because they have far fewer high price players. The downside is when they DO loose a player, it's more dramatic in terms of impact. But, that's what the draft is for - no matter how bad your team, hope springs eternal!

A totally artificial "behind the scene" correction could also appear in the youth academy. Low level or poor quality teams could simply have a higher chance of pulling a great star out of their academy. That would, over time, give them a bump to get going and a chance to catch up a bit on the money side of the game.

Last edited on 2011-12-06 11:48:05 by occam

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dark_wing
posted: 2011-12-06 11:45:05 (ID: 18998) Report Abuse
My offer.
Not move into a TL drafted by BOT-s players.
To rich teams can not to bye a lot of to good players.

Last edited on 2011-12-06 11:45:59 by dark_wing

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Turtlemania
posted: 2011-12-06 11:46:52 (ID: 18999) Report Abuse
occam wrote:
A totally artificial "behind the scene" correction could also appear in the youth academy. Low level or poor quality teams could simply have a higher chance of pulling a great star out of their academy. That would, over time, give them a bump to get going and a chance to catch up a bit on the money side of the game.


This is nice idea but look into "game reality"

Even now a "new team" is selling his future he get in draft for money

The effect for his team is huge impact as he weak himself!

So if such effect like this you propose or even draft players should be fixed to stay a few seasons with team especiall for new managers not to make mistake and weak themselve!
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occam
posted: 2011-12-06 11:48:49 (ID: 19000) Report Abuse
dark_wing wrote:
My offer.
Not move into a TL drafted by BOT-s players.
To rich teams can not to bye a lot of to good players.


Honestly? That's probably the simplest solution in the short term and then tweak over time.
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