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alexshans84
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posted: 2012-02-16 08:23:02 (ID: 28295) Report Abuse |
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Completely agree with you, because almost everyone want to train physicals in YA and doesn't care about PC. For seniors there is different training program. Separate folders for youths and seniors would be great addition
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Swordpriest1
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posted: 2012-02-16 16:09:28 (ID: 28316) Report Abuse |
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Admin wrote:
jack6 wrote:
Turtlemania wrote:
jack6 wrote:
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In case OL&Speed -> i would say no from observation  Really?  I will teast that on the test server.  This is reason why i asked Understanding Training with ACs I read that thread. For me, not allowing all physicals to train by all ACs make sno sense. It basically drives me to switch positions for my younger players. Well i will test it. Takes some time, unfortunatly. There are some ACs don't help with all physicals...ok, so it makes no sense  
so let me get this straight? I could some how be hurting my team because I want to train my players as specialist? see.. how does that make the game easier? Not only is it counter-intuitive to what football is but it makes even more micro-managing for a game already boggled in micro-managing. So not only is a new manager (or a vet for that matter) supposed to look over the entirety of their depth chart to figure out who is best a playing where... then divide up his AC's.. THEN switch up his whole YA from position to position like some sort of assembly line for building cyborg football players. There isnt a football training program anywhere on the globe that does this and its because it doesnt work. I have no problem with cross training but the way its used not existent in RL. You might cross train s e l e c t players in a couple of s e l e c t positions but to just wholesale out your YA to whereever you have ACs is just beyond whatever measure of reason. I'm not doing it.. if my players end up being subpar and it costs me games.. then so be it. When the system gets real.. I'll be waiting. |
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Buffalo
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posted: 2012-02-16 16:52:40 (ID: 28320) Report Abuse |
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Swordpriest1 wrote:
so let me get this straight? I could some how be hurting my team because I want to train my players as specialist? see.. how does that make the game easier? Not only is it counter-intuitive to what football is but it makes even more micro-managing for a game already boggled in micro-managing. So not only is a new manager (or a vet for that matter) supposed to look over the entirety of their depth chart to figure out who is best a playing where... then divide up his AC's.. THEN switch up his whole YA from position to position like some sort of assembly line for building cyborg football players. There isnt a football training program anywhere on the globe that does this and its because it doesnt work. I have no problem with cross training but the way its used not existent in RL. You might cross train s e l e c t players in a couple of s e l e c t positions but to just wholesale out your YA to whereever you have ACs is just beyond whatever measure of reason. I'm not doing it.. if my players end up being subpar and it costs me games.. then so be it. When the system gets real.. I'll be waiting. I think you understood something wrong. Nobody wants to train a Youth in Tackling AND Carrying. It is more training speed and strenght efficent to see were the players cap and decide than what position is the best for him. The other thing for cross over training are the tactical skills which all players need more or less. Nobody want to train a cyborg who can catch his own passes  |
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Turtlemania
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posted: 2012-02-16 17:13:44 (ID: 28323) Report Abuse |
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Nobody want to train a cyborg who can catch his own passes Exact First i put the guys there where they get the most training for Speed or Strength Then when cappes knows i decide the position. If he is going to be WR, then i put him at WR and he trains with lower WR-AC catching If he is going to be Defensiv Side, then sure i will put him at LB for tackling, because there i have the highest ACPoints But i can not put him same time at WR and LB to train Catch and Tackling same time In one thing swordpriest is right: it goes into micromanagement and who puts in effort get a small reward of bit faster training in speed and strength and can save up bit development time but is not much of advantage - and it works only for the youth players where we first have to find where they could fit best Last edited on 2012-02-16 17:14:19 by Turtlemania |
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Lee1950
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posted: 2012-02-16 19:37:39 (ID: 28338) Report Abuse |
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There is a hint here at how to change this:
Admin wrote:There are some ACs don't help with all physicals...ok, so it makes no sense
...and that would be to have all ACs train Speed and Strength equally well. So do we want a 51 CP Wide Rec AC training Strength at the same rate as a 95 CP Off Line AC? Is that more realistic than what we have, or less realistic? Edit: If you owned a semi-pro team and had a couple of asst coaches, wouldn't you think having them all train Strength with the best Strength coach was a good idea? Last edited on 2012-02-16 19:39:25 by Lee1950 |
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Swordpriest1
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posted: 2012-02-16 19:46:35 (ID: 28340) Report Abuse |
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Turtlemania wrote:
Buffalo wrote:
Nobody want to train a cyborg who can catch his own passes Exact First i put the guys there where they get the most training for Speed or Strength Then when cappes knows i decide the position. If he is going to be WR, then i put him at WR and he trains with lower WR-AC catching If he is going to be Defensiv Side, then sure i will put him at LB for tackling, because there i have the highest ACPoints But i can not put him same time at WR and LB to train Catch and Tackling same time In one thing swordpriest is right: it goes into micromanagement and who puts in effort get a small reward of bit faster training in speed and strength and can save up bit development time but is not much of advantage - and it works only for the youth players where we first have to find where they could fit best See if thats the case.... why not further enhance the YA with more options? When youngsters are training for the NFL draft they dont go to position coaches they go to fitness centers where they fully develope every physical tool they need. I understand what you guys mean by cross training in that you want to him to develope his max before you decide on a position but its more work than what needs be necessary. If we further develope the YA so that it cross trains physical attributes as a given we wouldnt have to worry about this. So if you have a CB in your YA and after a while you notice his max speed is low for a corner you just position shift him with zero loss of his physical training but will begin training technique for his new position. Thats basically what your talking about right? But not to make it too easy the manager has options, like two roads of the YA. You can spend money on your YA by sizing it up and being allowed more Youth with a larger Youth pull. Or you can spend money on the training element by maxing individual training and having less Youth. Its a simple measure that allows for flexibility on how managers can get the most out of their YA. |
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Ranagol
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posted: 2012-02-16 23:06:08 (ID: 28385) Report Abuse |
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Buffalo wrote:
Nobody want to train a cyborg who can catch his own passes I guess that makes Aaron Rodgers a cyborg (pro bowl self catch). 
And I'd definitely like a 4th tab for the YA players.
About changing the current training to something else...well I wouldn't really care either way... |
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Swordpriest1
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posted: 2012-02-17 02:34:32 (ID: 28401) Report Abuse |
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Lee1950 wrote:
There is a hint here at how to change this: Admin wrote:There are some ACs don't help with all physicals...ok, so it makes no sense
...and that would be to have all ACs train Speed and Strength equally well. So do we want a 51 CP Wide Rec AC training Strength at the same rate as a 95 CP Off Line AC? Is that more realistic than what we have, or less realistic? Here's the thing with that and comparing it to R/L... in our waking world I can physically look at a guy and tell if he is Wr or OL. Given that you cant tell that same difference in this game and given that the only difference is what the manager themselves wants to do with that player its kinda "cheap" to give that player the best of both worlds I think. In R/L if I wanted my WR to maximize his strength and speed I'd just send him to a conditioning coach and he'd develope a regime for him.. same as the OL. I think we can find a healthy balance in the game that will better illuminate a guys Sp/Str caps other than wholesale position changes. |
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Turtlemania
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posted: 2012-02-17 09:49:36 (ID: 28413) Report Abuse |
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BIG THANK YOU ADMINS!!!
Its just nicer to overlook the main team - THANK YOU! |
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Buffalo
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posted: 2012-02-17 09:56:08 (ID: 28416) Report Abuse |
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Jiiiha!
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