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sfniner08
posted: 2012-01-16 16:13:12 (ID: 24220) Report Abuse
I think it is reasonable to assume the career of a QB is longer than a rb. Some positions are so physical they just don't last as long (there are exceptions such as Ray Lewis). Any thought to having different retirement ages for different positions?

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Buffalo
posted: 2012-01-16 16:23:45 (ID: 24225) Report Abuse
This would be nice.

Or it would be nice, that you can try to change the mind of the player if he played 25 or more games in the season. Why should a starter retire after a great season?

You can make different percentages for each position, that the player will not retire.

The limitation could be that a player can only once comeback from his announced retirement.
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ryandinho
posted: 2012-01-16 16:26:32 (ID: 24227) Report Abuse
Buffalo wrote:
This would be nice.

Or it would be nice, that you can try to change the mind of the player if he played 25 or more games in the season. Why should a starter retire after a great season?

You can make different percentages for each position, that the player will not retire.

The limitation could be that a player can only once comeback from his announced retirement.


I like both suggestions, although I don't think it needs to be limited to the number of games played or that they can only un-retire once. Perhaps just decrease the likelihood of them un-retiring a second time from say 20% to 10% to 5% and so on...
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Buffalo
posted: 2012-01-16 16:38:42 (ID: 24228) Report Abuse
ryandinho wrote:
I don't think it needs to be limited to the number of games played or that they can only un-retire once. Perhaps just decrease the likelihood of them un-retiring a second time from say 20% to 10% to 5% and so on...


The idea, behind the number of games played was, that you can keep a player who you really need and not talk to the player, he doesn't retire, but the team sell him to get some money.

If a player play 25 games in the season I see the chance for a comeback at 50:50.
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Swordpriest1
posted: 2012-01-16 18:24:51 (ID: 24236) Report Abuse
LOVE the retirement by position suggestion. Will definitely influence contracts and TM. +

not real keen on the talking a player out of retirement. I really dont see teams doing this enough for it to be a factor in the this game. Either players play because they want get more money, love of the game, or want to win a championship. A GM successfully "talking" a player into playing a game their hearts not into tends to have a negative effect for both player and team.

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Grzymisław
posted: 2012-01-16 21:46:42 (ID: 24261) Report Abuse
Both suggestions very good!
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cantalupe
posted: 2012-07-01 14:43:25 (ID: 46160) Report Abuse
*cantalupe uses resurrection*

As I find this idea really good and realistic I'd like to revive it.
What I'd do is as said before change retirement ages per position i.e., QB something like 35-39, K 38-42, RB 30-32, etc.. To be defined per position.
The next step to prevent people from exploiting would be to remove the ability to change positions once a player hits the age of 30. Once a player IRL plays a certain number of years in the same position it isn't really likely that he would change it.
In-between the ages determined as possible to retire, the chance would rise each year, hitting 100% in the last year. Also, I'd make players deteriorate each year in this years, by x% in both physicals and play skills.

The bad thing about this is the increased amount of players in circulation, this would have to be fixes by raising the minimum age from 16 to perhaps 18 or 19, making the YA thus from 18-22. Note that most of the players start playing in the NFL when they're 21/22+.
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posted: 2012-07-01 14:48:32 (ID: 46162) Report Abuse
Here we go with the CON

Some positions need more skills than others. the current aging is the middle of the point where the player hits his training maximum. If I would allow a Kicker to be 40, he can easily max out his skills and play 10-15 years with it. While a QB retiring at 35 will hardly hit his skill maximum.

Keep in mind, a simulation like this to make some differences compared to real life.
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cantalupe
posted: 2012-07-01 14:58:05 (ID: 46164) Report Abuse
That's true. That can be worked out in two ways. Either by killing the K/P market as every one will have his own K/P for 10 seasons, or by lowering the amount of points each player gains per training session, as they will be performing for an extend amount of time. Though this will be bad for positions that retire early(RB). Is making carrying train faster than every other skill an option?
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Buffalo
posted: 2012-07-01 15:13:40 (ID: 46166) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
If I would allow a Kicker to be 40, he can easily max out his skills and play 10-15 years with it. While a QB retiring at 35 will hardly hit his skill maximum.


Training a kicker to his maximum would be stupid, because it is to expensive. Why not playing with a kicker with skills ~35 for 10 seasons?

Here another example. To train a OL is very difficult and need a lot of time. If you train him in 5 skills up to 40 he is 30+ years old. It would be fine if he could play 2-3 years at this level.

With a lower "turnover-rate" older players would have a higher value and managers don't start to sell them if they are older than 27.
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