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Ranagol
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posted: 2012-01-17 23:43:07 (ID: 24500) Report Abuse |
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jodla wrote:
so for example, in my opinion WR route running should be mix of footwork and vision, and actually its positioning? That's exactly how I see it too. Vision for seeing the ball and reacting accordingly, and footwork for the cuts in the route to make the defender fall back a few steps for example. But as I've said, I based these skills off of the current draftees, and positioning plays a bigger role for offense than vision. Vision is usualy higher for defensive players, whereas I think it should be the other way around. |
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sfniner08
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posted: 2012-01-17 23:45:39 (ID: 24502) Report Abuse |
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why not make it "route running" for wr's? Why have it at all I suppose? If it is vision and agility?
I can see it as a defensive skill in that defensive players have to react to a situation whereas on offense it is more a designed situation. I think it would make more sense to have a defensive skill called "field awareness" or "reaction time." |
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jodla
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posted: 2012-01-17 23:49:31 (ID: 24503) Report Abuse |
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tbh field awarness=vision for me. it should be an important skill for DL and LB, for reading the plays, like not falling into play action or screen passes, also for seeing where the ball is going to.
so im not against vision for defenders, as it is pretty important (and tbh irl vision comes with experience), but cmon, thats an important skill for ball carriers also! |
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NYDOGS
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posted: 2012-01-17 23:52:05 (ID: 24504) Report Abuse |
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Agreed with you but it doesn't change so much... Just don't see "positioning" as the term in your mind but as the game definition of it... And as Jodla said, it's a mix between footwork and vision there...
Maybe not the best term but clear when you read the meaning and impact on game |
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Ranagol
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posted: 2012-01-17 23:55:28 (ID: 24506) Report Abuse |
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I wonder if actually basing the affected skills on the draft board was a stupid idea, and Pete is laughing in the background about this pointless topic
At least no draftee has high footwork, while the manual clearly says that's what's needed for good blocks/tackles, breaking blocks/tackles, so it's important for defense offense alike... |
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NYDOGS
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posted: 2012-01-17 23:56:59 (ID: 24507) Report Abuse |
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Ranagol wrote:
I wonder if actually basing the affected skills on the draft board was a stupid idea, and Pete is laughing in the background about this pointless topic
At least no draftee has high footwork, while the manual clearly says that's what's needed for good blocks/tackles, breaking blocks/tackles, so it's important for defense offense alike... It's a good thinking... There was a bug on footwork and Peter will correct it next draft... He just forgot to give this skill to players that need it... |
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Ranagol
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posted: 2012-01-18 00:00:06 (ID: 24508) Report Abuse |
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NYDOGS wrote:
It's a good thinking... Don't get me wrong, I love debating about stuff like this. NYDOGS wrote:
There was a bug on footwork and Peter will correct it next draft... He just forgot to give this skill to players that need it... I see. Didn't know that. |
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sfniner08
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posted: 2012-01-18 00:00:36 (ID: 24509) Report Abuse |
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I still don't see any good functioning reason for positioning. I mean, if you don't know where on the field to lineup in the NFL you don't keep your job. I keep seeing you guys say positioning is like skill x and skill y together. Then why have positioning at all? It is artificial at best unless there is some other explanation that hasn't been offered.
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NYDOGS
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posted: 2012-01-18 00:04:33 (ID: 24510) Report Abuse |
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sfniner08 wrote:
I still don't see any good functioning reason for positioning. I mean, if you don't know where on the field to lineup in the NFL you don't keep your job. I keep seeing you guys say positioning is like skill x and skill y together. Then why have positioning at all? It is artificial at best unless there is some other explanation that hasn't been offered. I don't know... I just can base my thought on my manual interpretation... I don't say it's exactly a footwork, vision mix but it is in my mind when I apply it to my AF vision... Maybe I'm wrong... Positionning is go on your spot... That's why defensive players need that too... For me, the misunderstanding is about HBs... It makes sense for WR, run to your spot, but HBs should be more about vision of the open space Last edited on 2012-01-18 00:06:08 by NYDOGS |
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jodla
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posted: 2012-01-18 00:11:14 (ID: 24512) Report Abuse |
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sfniner08 wrote:
I still don't see any good functioning reason for positioning. I mean, if you don't know where on the field to lineup in the NFL you don't keep your job. I keep seeing you guys say positioning is like skill x and skill y together. Then why have positioning at all? It is artificial at best unless there is some other explanation that hasn't been offered. as i mentioned already, i dont see it as the skill responsible for route running of WR (a mix of footwork and vision here for me) or for HB (vision all the way for me here), on the other hand i think it is and should be a key skill for defence, especially for the pass defence (staying in such place, that QB has nowhere to throw the ball). Last edited on 2012-01-18 00:12:01 by jodla |
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