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JonnyP
posted: 2012-02-24 10:46:30 (ID: 29578) Report Abuse
Then have a 'report transfer' button which people can click if something 'appears' wrong.

Why limit the honest majority due to actions by an unscrupulous few?

Or better still, implement blind bidding, so that the size of bids are hidden until deadline time... as has already been said - it will lead to a more stable market, with better defined values which are not based on who is online at deadline time. Whether it pushes prices up or down is not important. It's fairer and more consistent.
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Buffalo
posted: 2012-02-24 10:51:21 (ID: 29579) Report Abuse
JonnyP wrote:
Or better still, implement blind bidding, so that the size of bids are hidden until deadline time... as has already been said - it will lead to a more stable market, with better defined values which are not based on who is online at deadline time. Whether it pushes prices up or down is not important. It's fairer and more consistent.


The one and only problem against a blind bidding are the limits. Which limits must be given to prevent cheating with unrealistic bids on bad players?

Last edited on 2012-02-24 10:51:36 by Buffalo

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JonnyP
posted: 2012-02-24 10:58:51 (ID: 29581) Report Abuse
There should be none published, and none during the bidding/listing process.

As I said, a 'report transfer' button should be there, and anyone who thinks it to be dodgy is free to click it, which reports the deal to an admin/'trusted' person, who then makes a judgement call.

And what should that judgement call be based on? Well market averages - which at the moment are all over the place due to the current system.

The current system would work well though with a larger pool of players and more active managers checking it more regularly.
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JonnyP
posted: 2012-02-24 11:03:44 (ID: 29582) Report Abuse
One more thing... why not the Ebay system?

Halfway between blind bidding and what we have now... you can see the current highest bid, but not the bidder's maximum offer. Bids can be placed at any time, and must be a certain % above the current bid in order to take the lead.


Imho it should be anything that does not require someone to online at an exact time.

Yes, this is due to my own circumstances - father of 2, 2 jobs, busy life with multiple committments - I can be online often, though commonly only for short bursts, and I can rarely predict exactly when I can be online. 'Jon can you help Holly with her homework', 'Jon can you drive me to the shops', etc etc

Last edited on 2012-02-24 11:08:12 by JonnyP

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posted: 2012-02-24 11:34:52 (ID: 29588)
JonnyP wrote:
One more thing... why not the Ebay system?

Halfway between blind bidding and what we have now... you can see the current highest bid, but not the bidder's maximum offer. Bids can be placed at any time, and must be a certain % above the current bid in order to take the lead.


Imho it should be anything that does not require someone to online at an exact time.

Yes, this is due to my own circumstances - father of 2, 2 jobs, busy life with multiple committments - I can be online often, though commonly only for short bursts, and I can rarely predict exactly when I can be online. 'Jon can you help Holly with her homework', 'Jon can you drive me to the shops', etc etc


It favors rich teams, as far as I remember
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Buffalo
posted: 2012-02-24 12:22:04 (ID: 29589) Report Abuse
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JonnyP wrote:
One more thing... why not the Ebay system?

Halfway between blind bidding and what we have now... you can see the current highest bid, but not the bidder's maximum offer. Bids can be placed at any time, and must be a certain % above the current bid in order to take the lead.


Imho it should be anything that does not require someone to online at an exact time.

Yes, this is due to my own circumstances - father of 2, 2 jobs, busy life with multiple committments - I can be online often, though commonly only for short bursts, and I can rarely predict exactly when I can be online. 'Jon can you help Holly with her homework', 'Jon can you drive me to the shops', etc etc


It favors rich teams, as far as I remember


I think yes. If you definitly want the player you put all you money in, but must only pay 1,000$ more than the second highest bidder.
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posted: 2012-02-24 13:15:08 (ID: 29592)
JonnyP wrote:
'Jon can you help Holly with her homework', 'Jon can you drive me to the shops', etc etc


'Jon, where is your Creditcard'

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JonnyP
posted: 2012-02-24 14:43:34 (ID: 29598) Report Abuse
Admin wrote:
JonnyP wrote:
One more thing... why not the Ebay system?

Halfway between blind bidding and what we have now... you can see the current highest bid, but not the bidder's maximum offer. Bids can be placed at any time, and must be a certain % above the current bid in order to take the lead.


Imho it should be anything that does not require someone to online at an exact time.

Yes, this is due to my own circumstances - father of 2, 2 jobs, busy life with multiple committments - I can be online often, though commonly only for short bursts, and I can rarely predict exactly when I can be online. 'Jon can you help Holly with her homework', 'Jon can you drive me to the shops', etc etc


It favors rich teams, as far as I remember


Any market based system favours the wealthy.... that is unavoidable unless you switch to a system of purely trades/draft/training.

Right now we have a system which favours the geeky no-lifers with money - at least with the proposed change, those of us with some life get a chance (not a lot..just some )
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JonnyP
posted: 2012-02-24 14:46:54 (ID: 29599) Report Abuse
Buffalo wrote:
Admin wrote:
JonnyP wrote:
One more thing... why not the Ebay system?

Halfway between blind bidding and what we have now... you can see the current highest bid, but not the bidder's maximum offer. Bids can be placed at any time, and must be a certain % above the current bid in order to take the lead.


Imho it should be anything that does not require someone to online at an exact time.

Yes, this is due to my own circumstances - father of 2, 2 jobs, busy life with multiple committments - I can be online often, though commonly only for short bursts, and I can rarely predict exactly when I can be online. 'Jon can you help Holly with her homework', 'Jon can you drive me to the shops', etc etc


It favors rich teams, as far as I remember


I think yes. If you definitly want the player you put all you money in, but must only pay 1,000$ more than the second highest bidder.


I think it would allow more teams to get involved in the bidding for each player, will therefore stabilise prices (probably initially increase them from what they are now), empty bank accounts a bit faster, and in turn calm the game down a little....
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posted: 2012-02-24 14:50:52 (ID: 29601)
We are thinking about a trading block, behind the scenes...nothing that becomes active within days...

I don't like to change the TM bidding, to be honest. We had so many discussions about, and all mentioned systems lead to more confusion and/or unfair handling...
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