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slider6
posted: 2012-02-24 18:40:35 (ID: 29667) Report Abuse
What is your theory for where you position you OL? Do you put your best OL at the Tackle position? Strongest at OG? Smartest at OC?

I've noticed that my Tackles (no matter if they are my best 2 OL or my normal starting OG) miss way more blocks than my Guards. When I swapped my normal starting OT & OG, the missed blocks stayed at Tackle and didn't follow the players.

Do the OT need higher Agility or Footwork than the OG? I'm still training blocking, so haven't started working on Secondary attributes.
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sfniner08
posted: 2012-02-24 18:50:58 (ID: 29671) Report Abuse
For me the OT should be faster than the og.

IF I were to put some sort of numbers on them for strength, speed, and agility...it would be like this..

Tackle: 40 strength, 40 speed, 25 agility
Guard: 45 strength 35 speed, 20 agility
Center: Not sure, to me like both in strong, fast, agile and smart.

It isn't those numbers per se, rather the relation between those sets of numbers I focus on.
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sharoth
posted: 2012-02-24 18:55:07 (ID: 29673) Report Abuse
This is what i do:

Smartest at Center. the guys with the most speed at tackle. After that the strongest players at guards.
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slider6
posted: 2012-02-24 19:13:26 (ID: 29678) Report Abuse
sfniner08 wrote:
For me the OT should be faster than the og.

IF I were to put some sort of numbers on them for strength, speed, and agility...it would be like this..

Tackle: 40 strength, 40 speed, 25 agility
Guard: 45 strength 35 speed, 20 agility
Center: Not sure, to me like both in strong, fast, agile and smart.

It isn't those numbers per se, rather the relation between those sets of numbers I focus on.

Why? I see being agile to be able to stay in front of DEs, but your OT aren't really running forward. I would think you want fast OG for the possibility of running plays that have pulling guards (though I doubt this has been implemented in the engine).
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sfniner08
posted: 2012-02-24 19:17:20 (ID: 29680) Report Abuse
slider6 wrote:
sfniner08 wrote:
For me the OT should be faster than the og.

IF I were to put some sort of numbers on them for strength, speed, and agility...it would be like this..

Tackle: 40 strength, 40 speed, 25 agility
Guard: 45 strength 35 speed, 20 agility
Center: Not sure, to me like both in strong, fast, agile and smart.

It isn't those numbers per se, rather the relation between those sets of numbers I focus on.

Why? I see being agile to be able to stay in front of DEs, but your OT aren't really running forward. I would think you want fast OG for the possibility of running plays that have pulling guards (though I doubt this has been implemented in the engine).


I was thinking that since the OT is generally blocking vs DE that they would need speed to counter the speed of the DE.

I don't think guards pull downfield in this engine though.
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TombKing
posted: 2012-02-24 19:22:36 (ID: 29685) Report Abuse
I thought that agility and strength were the physical skills that are matched against each other in a OT vs DE situation. I don't know, if speed is vital for any O-Liner. As we have no pulling linemen or any downfield blocking against LB or DBs, speed can be neglected in my opinion.

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ombi
posted: 2012-02-24 19:39:40 (ID: 29695) Report Abuse
Agreed. Guards should be stronger to match the DT's strength. Tackles should be a little faster and agile to keep the DE's away from the QB. The Center should be more intelligent, but otherwise be like a Guard, stronger to stop NT's and on the slow side compared to the OT's.

Last edited on 2012-02-24 19:39:59 by ombi

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sfniner08
posted: 2012-02-24 19:53:13 (ID: 29698) Report Abuse
Well, I haven't trained my tackles to have speed. I think they need to have some at the very least.
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alexshans84
posted: 2012-02-24 19:59:06 (ID: 29699) Report Abuse
I don't understand why OLs need agility in this game. This skill is for breaking tackles and blitzing only, I think
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KingOfTh3Hil
posted: 2012-02-24 20:23:35 (ID: 29702) Report Abuse
alexshans84 wrote:
I don't understand why OLs need agility in this game. This skill is for breaking tackles and blitzing only, I think


I will not train my OL in agility either since i think Footwork is the thing.

I will switch to agi if all the other skills is where i want them.

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