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Turtlemania
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posted: 2012-03-01 17:19:53 (ID: 30784) Report Abuse |
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sfniner08 wrote:
Say, there is player A who is a draftee type player. I would be ok if everyone had the opportunity to place a one time bid max bid. However, each player is still able to be bid on as it is now until the deadline or further, as it is now. In this way the people who can't be online at least have the chance the place a high bid. The people who are online then have the chance to try and outbid that blind bid max if needed. The only thing is, the blind bids have to be limited to funds on hand so that someone can't have 50 million in their account and then place multiple max 50 million blind bids. Nice one could work - 2 minutes before initiall deadline system checks for possible highest blind bid and releases/bids on player After that other still have chance to continue if wanted |
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kengrad
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posted: 2012-03-01 17:38:08 (ID: 30793) Report Abuse |
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sfniner08 wrote:
Virtually all online games favor people who can be on them more than those who cannot. I cannot, in fact, think of one that doesn't. The people who are online then have the chance to try and outbid that blind bid max if needed. The only thing is, the blind bids have to be limited to funds on hand so that someone can't have 50 million in their account and then place multiple max 50 million blind bids. I think the advantage from being online more should be form being able to do more research. I think this game is great because everyone has the same schedule and chances to improve your team. you don't have to be on at kick off; just have your team ready to go. set your draft board before the draft. have your training set before the draft. Why not have this same ideology for acquiring players from the TM? I don't think it hurts the game at all to make a manager really look at a guy and question how much he is worth to his team and future, and then stratigize form there. this seems a lot more true to the "soul of the game" then just I'll log on at the right time and keep pressing the bid more button. if you allow online players to just keep bidding it defeats the whole purpose. if you really need to have the outlet to just overbid everyone maybe do a one time a season, or every other, each manager gets a max match bid option, then from there all managers that selected that option for the player enters into a bidding war somewhat similar to this one, but guarantees each bidder a chance respond before going into an all out bidding war we see now. |
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Laudis
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posted: 2012-03-01 17:45:59 (ID: 30795) Report Abuse |
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kengrad wrote:
sfniner08 wrote:
Virtually all online games favor people who can be on them more than those who cannot. I cannot, in fact, think of one that doesn't. The people who are online then have the chance to try and outbid that blind bid max if needed. The only thing is, the blind bids have to be limited to funds on hand so that someone can't have 50 million in their account and then place multiple max 50 million blind bids. I think the advantage from being online more should be form being able to do more research. I think this game is great because everyone has the same schedule and chances to improve your team. you don't have to be on at kick off; just have your team ready to go. set your draft board before the draft. have your training set before the draft. Why not have this same ideology for acquiring players from the TM? I don't think it hurts the game at all to make a manager really look at a guy and question how much he is worth to his team and future, and then stratigize form there. this seems a lot more true to the "soul of the game" then just I'll log on at the right time and keep pressing the bid more button. if you allow online players to just keep bidding it defeats the whole purpose. if you really need to have the outlet to just overbid everyone maybe do a one time a season, or every other, each manager gets a max match bid option, then from there all managers that selected that option for the player enters into a bidding war somewhat similar to this one, but guarantees each bidder a chance respond before going into an all out bidding war we see now. Thank you for supporting the idea. Indead I dont know how ebay works. I like that system, because it is about more about strategy |
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sfniner08
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posted: 2012-03-01 17:51:25 (ID: 30802) Report Abuse |
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kengrad wrote:
sfniner08 wrote:
Virtually all online games favor people who can be on them more than those who cannot. I cannot, in fact, think of one that doesn't. The people who are online then have the chance to try and outbid that blind bid max if needed. The only thing is, the blind bids have to be limited to funds on hand so that someone can't have 50 million in their account and then place multiple max 50 million blind bids. I think the advantage from being online more should be form being able to do more research. I think this game is great because everyone has the same schedule and chances to improve your team. you don't have to be on at kick off; just have your team ready to go. set your draft board before the draft. have your training set before the draft. Why not have this same ideology for acquiring players from the TM? I don't think it hurts the game at all to make a manager really look at a guy and question how much he is worth to his team and future, and then stratigize form there. this seems a lot more true to the "soul of the game" then just I'll log on at the right time and keep pressing the bid more button. Everyone should do this regardless of the bidding process. Most do have limits on what they will spend on player A or B if you allow online players to just keep bidding it defeats the whole purpose. if you really need to have the outlet to just overbid everyone maybe do a one time a season, or every other, each manager gets a max match bid option, then from there all managers that selected that option for the player enters into a bidding war somewhat similar to this one, but guarantees each bidder a chance respond before going into an all out bidding war we see now. There is a difference between something being equitable and equal. There is this insane thinking by some parts of culture who think everything must be exactly equal for everyone. That is seriously flawed thinking. Then there is equitable whereby each person gets what they need. If you need to build a good team through the TM then you are going to have to put time into it. If you need to build through the draft and YA then you put time into that. It does take time. My personal feeling is that if you don't find a way to make it work for you then that is that person's problem. I am a very busy person who doesn't have a lot of gadgets and funds but yet I find a way. If I can't get online for a player I want, well that is just tough nuggets and I will try to get the next one that shows up. More players will come, they always will. |
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posted: 2012-03-01 17:54:30 (ID: 30803) Report Abuse |
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sfniner08 wrote:
Virtually all online games favor people who can be on them more than those who cannot. I cannot, in fact, think of one that doesn't. That being said, I could support a blind bidding system if it was PART of the current system. Say, there is player A who is a draftee type player. I would be ok if everyone had the opportunity to place a one time bid max bid. However, each player is still able to be bid on as it is now until the deadline or further, as it is now. In this way the people who can't be online at least have the chance the place a high bid. The people who are online then have the chance to try and outbid that blind bid max if needed. The only thing is, the blind bids have to be limited to funds on hand so that someone can't have 50 million in their account and then place multiple max 50 million blind bids.  It's what we need! I would like such system |
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posted: 2012-03-01 18:02:11 (ID: 30807) |
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alexshans84 wrote:
sfniner08 wrote:
Virtually all online games favor people who can be on them more than those who cannot. I cannot, in fact, think of one that doesn't. That being said, I could support a blind bidding system if it was PART of the current system. Say, there is player A who is a draftee type player. I would be ok if everyone had the opportunity to place a one time bid max bid. However, each player is still able to be bid on as it is now until the deadline or further, as it is now. In this way the people who can't be online at least have the chance the place a high bid. The people who are online then have the chance to try and outbid that blind bid max if needed. The only thing is, the blind bids have to be limited to funds on hand so that someone can't have 50 million in their account and then place multiple max 50 million blind bids. It's what we need! I would like such systemHow is that part of the ACTUAL system? I don't understand it... How do the things mix up? |
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sfniner08
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posted: 2012-03-01 18:10:02 (ID: 30810) Report Abuse |
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The current system of bidding would still take place, but (you could put a time of 1 hour or whatever you want before the bid end time is) you place a one time max bid that isn't seen by the people who are bidding. So here is a sample case:
Manager A Manager B Manager C Manager C places a max bid of 20 million on the player. It will show up initially as just whatever the minimum bid would need to be to win. So in this example the player starts out at 5000, so the max bid by player C is now showing as just 6000. Tick tock tick tock....fastforward to the final 30 minutes... Manager A and B start placing bids but after each of their bids Manager C is winning as long as the bids by by A and B don't go over 20 million. So, everytime that A and B have bid so far it shows up as C with the winning bid by 1,000 more. A and B can still raise the bids by 50%. Once A or B goes over 20 million then C is out of the bidding process. It would finish as normal. Now, this could also raise up the prices if someone wants that player bad enough. However, if C was really willing to bid the max they could afford of 20 million I don't see how much would really change because A and/or B would probably still keep bidding. This just gives those managers a chance to bid because they can't be online. |
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Turtlemania
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posted: 2012-03-01 18:10:20 (ID: 30811) Report Abuse |
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Admin wrote:
How is that part of the ACTUAL system? I don't understand it... How do the things mix up? Every one can put in Either increase of "visible" bid according to increase rules or put in a blind bid up to as he likes to put Only one works So 2 minutes before deadline systems checks IF Highest blind bid > current bid -> set highest blind bid as current bid From then on every one is free to bid and go into bid war if he likes |
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posted: 2012-03-01 18:12:38 (ID: 30812) |
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Turtlemania wrote:
Admin wrote:
How is that part of the ACTUAL system? I don't understand it... How do the things mix up? Every one can put in Either increase of "visible" bid according to increase rules or put in a blind bid up to as he likes to put Only one works So 2 minutes before deadline systems checks IF Highest blind bid > current bid -> set highest blind bid as current bid From then on every one is free to bid and go into bid war if he likes I don't like that 2 minute rule |
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sfniner08
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posted: 2012-03-01 18:14:36 (ID: 30814) Report Abuse |
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For this feature I described it should be an hour before minimum that the max bid is placed. Otherwise it defeats the purpose of the idea.
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