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Buffalo
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posted: 2012-04-13 16:39:44 (ID: 35513) Report Abuse |
I tested against a very new the medium passes and it didn't worked. 34 incomplete passes, 2 interceptions and only one complete pass for a TD.
The problem is, that a RB with low carrying is able to pick up a lot of yards and could get new first downs. For a receiver with low catching it is possible to get catch some short passes for a maximum of 9 yards. Madium passes are nearly impossible to catch for them. The problem is, that many managers don't want to wait 4 season to have enough players for a successfull pass play. I know it is difficult to balance this out, but it would be nice if a bad pass offense has more success against a worse pass defense. |
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Sisko
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posted: 2012-04-13 22:41:29 (ID: 35564) Report Abuse |
When do you guys think a QB loses his ability to throw a decent pass cause of lost PC? I recently tested playing a 100% PC QB without substitutions and he finished around 87%. Bearing in mind that you'll want to start him at 95% sometimes, he could go down to almost 80%.
So if that means my Drew Brees, who hits every guy right between the eyes, starts spreading the ball around like Tim Tebow... Yeah, than I would have a problem with the passing game. Cause that would mean, I need two high profile passers... If so, I would suggest to lower the fatigue for QB. Maybe it should go down 6% in game instead of 13%. (Sacks could be an extra factor, so you would need a good DLine to get a QB out of the game...) |
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posted: 2012-04-13 23:45:38 (ID: 35574) Report Abuse | |
So is his passing much better in Q1 than in Q4 then??
Steve SD Blitz |
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Monkey
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posted: 2012-04-13 23:59:32 (ID: 35582) Report Abuse |
Solana_Steve wrote:
So is his passing much better in Q1 than in Q4 then?? Steve SD Blitz how can you tell? the defence will be less tired in Q1 too and it will be the starters |
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Monkey
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posted: 2012-04-14 00:01:34 (ID: 35583) Report Abuse |
Buffalo wrote:
I tested against a very new the medium passes and it didn't worked. 34 incomplete passes, 2 interceptions and only one complete pass for a TD. The problem is, that a RB with low carrying is able to pick up a lot of yards and could get new first downs. For a receiver with low catching it is possible to get catch some short passes for a maximum of 9 yards. Madium passes are nearly impossible to catch for them. The problem is, that many managers don't want to wait 4 season to have enough players for a successfull pass play. I know it is difficult to balance this out, but it would be nice if a bad pass offense has more success against a worse pass defense. it doesnt get any better really in power mode from what ive seen, the balanced game is more neccessary but your QB will still average less than 5 yards per throw |
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posted: 2012-04-14 00:09:10 (ID: 35584) Report Abuse | |
Yeah, but what's your average on the ground in power mode? I think its lower that non-power mode, right?
One of the other problems with passing is that you throw so may interceptions for return TDs. Its makes it even tougher... Steve SD Blitz |
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Monkey
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posted: 2012-04-14 00:27:59 (ID: 35588) Report Abuse |
Solana_Steve wrote:
Yeah, but what's your average on the ground in power mode? I think its lower that non-power mode, right? One of the other problems with passing is that you throw so may interceptions for return TDs. Its makes it even tougher... Steve SD Blitz yeah it was lower in power mode but passing didnt get noticably better either though. no INT issues here only 2 from my starter all season, had 2 from my backup as well from forgetting to set no subs at QB. my problems the 27 fumbles from my HBs and FBs this season when im passing more often than rushing go figure |
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razor34
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posted: 2012-04-14 01:54:34 (ID: 35593) Report Abuse |
Please don't shoot me down in flames ...
But , this is my first season in RZA and I knew it would be a hard slog , and a bumpy learning curve immediately . What I'm surprised at is so many experienced players being so frustrated about getting to grips with the passing game . Is it there yet ? Obviously not . There's so many formulas to take into consideration . I was under the impression that for a QB Strength was important........well it probably will be in the future , but whats the point of throwing 60 yds if your receiver has run into a barrel of Gatorade , or the QB looks eyeball to eyeball with a monster Blitzer and the pigskin comes down attached to a meteorite . If short passes are sporadic to say the least and long/ medium seem to be a lottery I would question that ...... Is speed more beneficial for a QB regarding the release of the ball .........Does ' Speed ' only relate to foot/leg speed . At the moment I'm focussing a lot of training on Agility .... Just for the sake of it ....PLEASE someone tell me if I'm cocking up big time . By pm though to avoid my shame . Last edited on 2012-04-14 01:55:53 by razor34 |
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Sisko
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posted: 2012-04-14 07:07:22 (ID: 35601) Report Abuse |
razor34 wrote:
What I'm surprised at is so many experienced players being so frustrated about getting to grips with the passing game . Is it there yet ? Obviously not . I was under the impression that for a QB Strength was important or the QB looks eyeball to eyeball with a monster Blitzer Is speed more beneficial for a QB regarding the release of the ball No frustration here. Passed for more than 4000 yards this season. Considerable part of the game plan. Looking forward to extend that. More than 4000 Yards says it is there. Obviously. Strenght is important for the case you describe: Throw deep accurate passes. So your QB will not only be able to throw deep thanks to strenght but he'll hit something inside the sidelines too. Agility is the skill to avoid sacks. Speed and strenght can refer to different things (Overall-strenght for Liner, leg-strenght for kicker/punter), but your idea about QB-speed was never brought up before as it seems that INT is the skill for decision making. Speedy QB seem to cover more ground when starting running. So QB speed is the same as RB speed in my opinion. |
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Sisko
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posted: 2012-04-14 07:12:02 (ID: 35602) Report Abuse |
Monkey wrote:
Solana_Steve wrote:
So is his passing much better in Q1 than in Q4 then?? Steve SD Blitz how can you tell? the defence will be less tired in Q1 too and it will be the starters That's the question. It is much easier to build a deep secondary with fresh players in the later stages of the game, than building (and later paying) two equal QBs. |
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