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gnikeoj
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posted: 2017-03-19 20:36:20 (ID: 100100868) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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I believe the most effective way to get the best use of the fearsome trait is to use the player on the defensive line. At linebacker, it doesn't matter what position you place him since the engine will s e l e c t a blitzing linebacker randomly at the rate you choose to blitz. This might not be a problem depending on your play style and/or the additional personnel you have to support him. Speed kills. If you have a starting lineup of fast linebackers, you increase your odds of getting sacks.
Specifically, I think your player is weak for my preference. I'd play him in the secondary. I don't say that to mean that he can't be an effective linebacker, I think he can be, but I believe that you'll see that a slightly stronger player with the same speed can be just as, if not more effective even without the trait. Edit: I didn't see that your player's strength was uncapped. If he caps above 45, I would play him at defensive end. Although he won't rack up sack numbers like a linebacker, with his speed and strength, plus the traits, he's almost guaranteed to break through a lot. This will give your linebackers an easier pathway to sack the QB in almost every formation except Shotgun 2 WR or 4WR. Under this scenario, I think you might have the beginings of a dominant defensive front 7. Last edited on 2017-03-19 20:44:58 by gnikeoj |
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Hunter550
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posted: 2017-03-19 20:47:57 (ID: 100100869) Report Abuse |
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gnikeoj wrote:
I believe the most effective way to get the best use of the fearsome trait is to use the player on the defensive line. At linebacker, it doesn't matter what position you place him since the engine will s e l e c t a blitzing linebacker randomly at the rate you choose to blitz. This might not be a problem depending on your play style and/or the additional personnel you have to support him. Speed kills. If you have a starting lineup of fast linebackers, you increase your odds of getting sacks. Specifically, I think your player is weak for my preference. I'd play him in the secondary. I don't say that to mean that he can't be an effective linebacker, I think he can be, but I believe that you'll see that a slightly stronger player with the same speed can be just as, if not more effective even without the trait. Well, thats just the thing. My team is still very underdeveloped, and Contreras is actually one of the strongest players on my team because of that. But I also want him staying at LB because I normally like my best players at LB and I think he's gonna be the guy I build my defense around. The only thing that has me not wanting him in the secondary is that fearsome trait, because i feel like he's gonna get less chances to blitz if i put him at SF, which would just even more negate his trait. Plus his strength isn't capped so I'm at least getting 47 or so strength which I am comfortable with at LB |
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gnikeoj
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posted: 2017-03-19 20:57:47 (ID: 100100871) Report Abuse |
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Yeah, now that I see this his strength is going to be much higher than I previously thought, I think that he's a defensive front-7 player for sure. He should make a big impact for you in the seasons to come.
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Rock777
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posted: 2017-03-19 21:46:46 (ID: 100100878) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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Lamba wrote:
Rock777 wrote:
Lamba wrote:
Rock777 wrote:
but the game engine seems to put slow QBs under more pressure for some unexplained reason. Well if he's slower, he doesn't avoid pressure as fast? It makes sense in my head. Maybe in your head, but not in real life. Take a look at the slower QBs in the league (like -G.O.A.T-). They don't get sacked more or throw more picks. Speed has nothing to do with pressure. If a QB is sitting in the pocket he is going to be pressured the same regardless. Its more about the O-Line and the QBs poise. QBs only utilize speed if they are doing a scramble (at which point they have already been pressured. This isn't real life. Your argument is invalid.  Not sure where you live, but I live in real life. I said "for some unexplained reason", you gave a "why it makes sense to you", and I explained why your reasoning was wrong. I didn't realize that when you said "in my head" you were referring to a land of illusions that doesn't exist in the real world 
This isn't in your head. Your argument is invalid. Last edited on 2017-03-19 21:57:16 by Rock777 |
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Rock777
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posted: 2017-03-19 21:51:17 (ID: 100100879) Report Abuse |
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Hunter550 wrote:
Got this guy in the draft, 20 y/o Manuel Contreras, a 3 1/2* rated LB, however I'm trying to find if it's best for me to plug him into the MLB or OLB spot. Normally I'd put my best/smartest guy at MLB, but I want to make use of his pass rush ability since he does possess the Fearsome trait. 50 INT 50 SPD (plus Track Star trait) 42.1 STR (no cap) 31.7 VIS 27.6 TACK 25.7 POS 39.5 TW (just in case it's useful for something) I'd go LB. It would be a waste not to use that speed and 50 INT at LB. He will be a monster MLB. The fearsome trait may be more effective on DEs, but its still useful on LBs. Bltizing out of a dime or 3-1-7 will be done 100% by your MLB. |
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amalric7
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posted: 2017-03-20 21:17:01 (ID: 100100947) Report Abuse |
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Rock777 wrote:
Hunter550 wrote:Got this guy in the draft, 20 y/o Manuel Contreras, a 3 1/2* rated LB, however I'm trying to find if it's best for me to plug him into the MLB or OLB spot. Normally I'd put my best/smartest guy at MLB, but I want to make use of his pass rush ability since he does possess the Fearsome trait.
50 INT 50 SPD (plus Track Star trait) 42.1 STR (no cap) 31.7 VIS 27.6 TACK 25.7 POS 39.5 TW (just in case it's useful for something) I'd go LB. It would be a waste not to use that speed and 50 INT at LB. He will be a monster MLB. The fearsome trait may be more effective on DEs, but its still useful on LBs. Bltizing out of a dime or 3-1-7 will be done 100% by your MLB. This has been very interesting, as I drafted almost exactly the same player - and I'm in the same league AND division as Hunter. He got his at 6th overall, I got mine at 26th, but I guess (and we know, already discussed it) that it worked for both. Only real differences are for the most part small (Suarez has one star more TAL, and a half star less EXP, but same physicals and INT, but TW is just 30.5), and also in Traits - my guy has Ball Stripper and Long Reach. I was thinking MLB all the way. |
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Hunter550
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posted: 2017-03-20 23:36:58 (ID: 100100955) Report Abuse |
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amalric7 wrote:
Rock777 wrote:
Hunter550 wrote:Got this guy in the draft, 20 y/o Manuel Contreras, a 3 1/2* rated LB, however I'm trying to find if it's best for me to plug him into the MLB or OLB spot. Normally I'd put my best/smartest guy at MLB, but I want to make use of his pass rush ability since he does possess the Fearsome trait.
50 INT 50 SPD (plus Track Star trait) 42.1 STR (no cap) 31.7 VIS 27.6 TACK 25.7 POS 39.5 TW (just in case it's useful for something) I'd go LB. It would be a waste not to use that speed and 50 INT at LB. He will be a monster MLB. The fearsome trait may be more effective on DEs, but its still useful on LBs. Bltizing out of a dime or 3-1-7 will be done 100% by your MLB. This has been very interesting, as I drafted almost exactly the same player - and I'm in the same league AND division as Hunter. He got his at 6th overall, I got mine at 26th, but I guess (and we know, already discussed it) that it worked for both. Only real differences are for the most part small (Suarez has one star more TAL, and a half star less EXP, but same physicals and INT, but TW is just 30.5), and also in Traits - my guy has Ball Stripper and Long Reach. I was thinking MLB all the way. Yeah I'm just gonna keep him at MLB. I guess I feel that since my defense isn't stacked all-around that I feel I need to use and abuse that Fearsome trait at every opportunity. |
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Rock777
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posted: 2017-03-20 23:51:26 (ID: 100100956) Report Abuse |
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gnikeoj
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posted: 2017-03-21 00:02:04 (ID: 100100957) Report Abuse |
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Once you get some defensive linemen up front to keep him clean, you can blitz him like crazy and he'll rack up sacks at a precipitous rate.
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Hunter550
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posted: 2017-03-21 00:06:19 (ID: 100100958) Report Abuse |
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gnikeoj wrote:
Once you get some defensive linemen up front to keep him clean, you can blitz him like crazy and he'll rack up sacks at a precipitous rate. Yup, that's the plan. Not to mention my second round pick was a DL and he's already looking like a stud. |
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