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  Poll: Change the Defense Pick order, Poll closed, votes: 198
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Yes
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I don't care / I don't have an idea
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No (do not forget to send a reason for your NO vote)
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posted: 2012-04-29 12:22:56 (ID: 37796) Report Abuse
I would like to change the pick order of the engine. Only for the Defense formations! Today we pick DL to SF, and left to right.

I would like to change the left to right thing only. So the new order basically results in the following change

old:
3-3-5
del der nt mlb olbl olbr cbl cbr ssc fsl fsr

new:
3-3-5
der del nt mlb olbr olbl cbr cbl ssc fsr fsl


The reason: we pick offense from left to right, the defense picking should counter that - thanks for that hint to JonnyP and others.

Edit2: If you go for a NO, I would like to learn about the reason. Public or via PM pls. I will ignore No-Votes without reason this time, sorry

Edit: I forgot to mention: this will result in some workload on more sophisticated Depth Charts of course. Keep this in mind pls. The change would apply at Season rollover to Season 4, in about 14 days from now...

Last edited on 2012-04-29 12:38:17 by pete

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posted: 2012-04-29 12:35:06 (ID: 37797) Report Abuse
I forgot: If you go for a NO, I would like to learn about the reason. Public or via PM pls. I will ignore No-Votes without reason this time, sorry
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Turtlemania
posted: 2012-04-29 12:38:20 (ID: 37798) Report Abuse
I really like it! It will nihilize passing game even more and i can stay a rushing team

So i voted yes, i will vote for everything yes and try to adapt
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posted: 2012-04-29 12:40:54 (ID: 37799) Report Abuse
Turtlemania wrote:
It will nihilize passing game even more and i can stay a rushing team


Do you think so? What is the reason for this? I think it is the opposite...
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Tarjan
posted: 2012-04-29 12:43:25 (ID: 37800) Report Abuse
Voted no cause the benefitz the one side offense even more, reason i put my stronges linemen on top of the Depthchar means Left OT is my strongest man, if the defense is changed the left DE is taken first so he plays against the second OT which is taken by the engine ...

Last edited on 2012-04-29 12:44:55 by Tarjan

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posted: 2012-04-29 12:46:19 (ID: 37801) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Turtlemania wrote:
It will nihilize passing game even more and i can stay a rushing team


Do you think so? What is the reason for this? I think it is the opposite...


Simple: Since managers from my experience at 95% dont "care" about "rank player systemologie"

Effect will be: Strong WR/TE most times face Strong CB / OLB -> result, even less completition or even less yards.

At the moment the WR/TE profit from facing the weaker one!

Sure, rush guys like me could find hard times because the "rush left" thing will suffer, but i give it up yesterday, result known
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posted: 2012-04-29 12:50:48 (ID: 37802) Report Abuse
Turtlemania wrote:
Strong WR/TE most times face Strong CB / OLB -> result, even less completition or even less yards.
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Sure, rush guys ... could find hard times because the "rush left" thing will suffer...


So it is OK to do that, if understand your point right. Both pass and rush left will suffer from this change, which is the intention! It would be simply wrong to make a stronger pass play this way. The pass/rush balance can't rely on wrong pick orders, it has to be balanced on the engine-gameplay-part.
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posted: 2012-04-29 12:52:24 (ID: 37803) Report Abuse
Tarjan wrote:
Voted no cause the benefitz the one side offense even more, reason i put my stronges linemen on top of the Depthchar means Left OT is my strongest man, if the defense is changed the left DE is taken first so he plays against the second OT which is taken by the engine ...




The LEFT OT faces the right DE. The left right thing is made from the point of view

QB for offense
LB for defense.


Does this solve your "no"?
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Tarjan
posted: 2012-04-29 13:01:26 (ID: 37804) Report Abuse
my fault...

i know the left right thing but i switched old and new ...

Was surprised now i know why...
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posted: 2012-04-29 13:09:32 (ID: 37806) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
It would be simply wrong to make a stronger pass play this way. The pass/rush balance can't rely on wrong pick orders, it has to be balanced on the engine-gameplay-part.

Absolutely agree with this. Plus it makes sense to put your strongest CB against the strongest WR of the opposing team. Sure we can also do this with the current DC pick order, but once the engine starts substituting it probably gets messed up, right?

I voted YES.
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