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  Poll: Change the Defense Pick order, Poll closed, votes: 198
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Yes
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I don't care / I don't have an idea
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No (do not forget to send a reason for your NO vote)
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sh8888
posted: 2012-04-29 17:17:55 (ID: 37848) Report Abuse
JonnyP wrote:
There is a reason why it must be changed...

Read the thread on the dark-wing offense and then put 2 and 2 together.....

This is the correction to the 'exploit' I suggested to Pete a while ago.


Agree 100% with this.
My only slight concern would be that by amending the pick-order to close one 'exploit' you may possibly open the door to a different exploit .... but fear of the unknown is not a good enough reason for keeping things as they are.

so a big 'Yes' from me.

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Nestoro
posted: 2012-04-29 17:35:42 (ID: 37850) Report Abuse
Buffalo wrote:
A change of the picking order would help new managers. For me I will change nothing, because I made the order of my DC with the pick order in my mind.

+1
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posted: 2012-04-29 18:03:39 (ID: 37855) Report Abuse
JonnyP wrote:
This is the correction to the 'exploit' I suggested to Pete a while ago.


Just to be fair: It is part of the correction...a big part!
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posted: 2012-04-29 18:05:23 (ID: 37856) Report Abuse
aafenton wrote:
I vote no. Passing game needs to be opened up in this game. It is the only part I find extraordinarily bad in this game. Everything else is fine. Is there anyway that you can find a way to make the Passing Game more realistic?


If you vote yes, we could. We need to fix it in the engine, not in the pick order. ANd we are on the fix for pass/rush balance already. By changing the pick order this becomes just more useful.
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scottishbronco
posted: 2012-04-29 20:44:29 (ID: 37883) Report Abuse
do i have this correct.

Currently the depth chart picks left to right, so your WR at the top of the chart will be the left WR

The defenses best CB would line up on the LEFT side of defenst, therefore playing the weaker WR

is that right?
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posted: 2012-04-29 22:16:55 (ID: 37887) Report Abuse
scottishbronco wrote:
do i have this correct.

Currently the depth chart picks left to right, so your WR at the top of the chart will be the left WR

The defenses best CB would line up on the LEFT side of defenst, therefore playing the weaker WR

is that right?


this is the way it is working right now, yes.

I would like to change it, so the strong WR faces the strong CB (based on DC order)
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malkarma
posted: 2012-04-29 23:12:43 (ID: 37893) Report Abuse
probably this is one of the best decissions that can be made at moment. My vote is yes.
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scottishbronco
posted: 2012-04-30 01:18:07 (ID: 37908) Report Abuse
malkarma wrote:
probably this is one of the best decissions that can be made at moment. My vote is yes.


I believe the above statement too. the tactical element will still remain, by being able to adjust players positioning on the depth chart
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looser
posted: 2012-04-30 10:22:31 (ID: 37941) Report Abuse
IdRatherFlyFish wrote:
I vote no.

I voted no because I don't see how this makes any difference, so why do the work.

Current engine selects players from the depth chart according to the current rules. All players know the way the depth chart fills out the plays. To switch the defense from L to R (or is it R to L) will only force players (like my self) to go and change their defensive depth charts. It will not impact the game because as Pete said, the players will still line up according to position. So - the defensive end you had to play LDE, will still play LDE, as long as you adjust your defensive depth chart.

So - that's why I voted no. I do not want to have to go adjust my depth chart.

OH - if you do decide to make the change, it wont be that big of a deal to me, I'll just adjust my DC.


Peace,

Fish

totally agree except i vote Yes why?

IdRatherFlyFish wrote:OH - if you do decide to make the change, it wont be that big of a deal to me, I'll just adjust my DC.

and newbie can do it right in the beginning of the game
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kengrad
posted: 2012-05-01 19:39:30 (ID: 38210) Report Abuse
I voted no. Not because I don't favor a change, but because I would like a change that results in a more realistic game planing scheme.

While You may take defensive players and say, "You line up at this spot all of the time." But often this is not the case. You will almost never see a HOF bound CB line up vs. a 4th Wr and leave a HOF bound WR left to be covered by a scrub, unless of course you are playing a zone scheme.

Top CB will cover top WR reguardless what side of the field they are on.
Same with LB, DE, and S.


The top DE will often play strong/weak side, or qbs blind side rather than just the same position every snap. same with LB Weak side often is the faster one.


I would rather see the dept chart be set by somthing like

NT

DE 1 (then a group of players that you want to play DE 1 from firsth string on down)


DE 2


Then from there you could pick defensive schemes like DE1= weak/strong side (or whatever criteria is relevant) CB1= cover top WR, or the weak side, or always on the left, ect.


I think any system where you are evaluating specifically where you want your defenders to play/how you want them to cover the field would be better, because you are developing a tatic/learning your team, rather than trying to master a game engine and ultimately having players play in ways that you never would have if you could have controlled it.
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