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bwadders76
posted: 2012-04-29 20:07:05 (ID: 37875) Report Abuse
Here is an idea I am not sure how viable it is or even if its a decent idea but here goes

Many of the big teams have a full roster and a close on full YA. How about that the division 1 teams can loan a player from their YA to a division 2 team for a season. This would enable the YA player to gain experience create space for the division 1 side and add a bit of quality to a division 2 side.

I was originally thinking that they dont have this in the NFL but they dont have promotion and relegation either. It may not even be workable in the engine or may not be at all popular.
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posted: 2012-04-29 22:18:45 (ID: 37888) Report Abuse
Nice

can't wait to hear about Pros and Cons

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looser
posted: 2012-04-30 00:30:31 (ID: 37903) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Nice

can't wait to hear about Pros and Cons


Pros is that positive
Cons is that negative
or other way round?

EDIT:or do that means something very different

Last edited on 2012-04-30 00:31:24 by looser

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Monkey
posted: 2012-04-30 01:07:27 (ID: 37904) Report Abuse
looser wrote:
pete wrote:
Nice

can't wait to hear about Pros and Cons


Pros is that positive
Cons is that negative
or other way round?

EDIT:or do that means something very different


pro = positive
con = negative
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scottishbronco
posted: 2012-04-30 01:24:34 (ID: 37909) Report Abuse
It is a great idea but who would train the on loan player? would there be fees? How would experience gained differ from playing in a lower league?

I would like to see a YA college system introduced. All teams are allocated a depth chart squad of 16-20 yr olds who we fine tune in time for the draft.

The players who are ready to be drafted are randomly assigned across the leagues to keep things fair.

sorry to hijack the topic



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Swordpriest1
posted: 2012-04-30 02:38:20 (ID: 37915) Report Abuse
I cant wrap my mind around that what scottish was talking about at the end. But to the original suggestion.... not a bad idea.

The way I see it... the loan figure should work similar to how things work in soccer.

basically you sacrifice "training" for experience when you loan out a YA player. The manager who acquired the loaned player is then responsible for his training.

When loaning out a senior player... the players salary is transferred to the manager who acquired the loaned player and as is with the YA player.. the traning responsibilities are also transferred to the new manager.

I see that as the basic functionality of how a loan system would work... If someone like turtle has extra math they want to involve.. I've got my calculate app open...
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scottishbronco
posted: 2012-04-30 05:24:46 (ID: 37926) Report Abuse
my idea was basically a college football system within RZA.
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Buffalo
posted: 2012-04-30 05:44:01 (ID: 37928) Report Abuse
The idea is not bad, but I would not use such an option. The risk, that the other team train the player not in the way I would do would be to high. OK, the player would have more experience, but in the worst case you can can loose one season of training, if the other team train your DL as QB.
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posted: 2012-04-30 06:10:12 (ID: 37930) Report Abuse
The problem with a loan system is in the actual RZA environment only the training aspect.
I think the rest is managable.

Pros are of course the exp gain, the money the giving manager gets and the (hopefully) better player the receiving manager gets.

Cons are that one of those two managers has no controll over training.
Can't see a mixed training.
Maybe a training based on predefined skills (like, THAT will be a WR, so training only allowed in catching, pos, vis, agility and speed based on the decision of the giving manager ...)
If the giving manager trains, the player might be trained to a skill set the receiving manager don't need.
If the receiving manager trains, the player might be trained in a direction the giving manager doesn't like.

PC-training is a factor, too. The giving manager might want to get his skills high as fast as possible and would train PC at the end or only on senior team. The receiving manager needs a player with PC in the 90s. So he would skip the skill training sometimes.

Change of position is also a topic. Who can do this and how long?

regarding the college system (more high school system from the age point of view ): The problem here is, that a manager who trained his super talent to a super player to be, does not want to loose that player in any kind of draft. This is a major problem with such system, where every senior team manager also trains the youth players.
You want to have the option to keep players.
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sfniner08
posted: 2012-04-30 18:08:14 (ID: 37995) Report Abuse
Don't know why the borrowing manager needs to have access to training and position changes. Couldn't those 2 features just be locked to them? It seems that it isn't as complicated as that.


What does seem complicated to me is who (what teams) would be borrowing and what ages can they borrow. In addition, how much money? I'm fine with their being no money at all. As of now the YA players sit there and train, but loaning them out they gain the experience advantage. You didn't get money before you shouldn't now. Second, my having money involved that may really impede some of the newer teams from a chance at a great youth prospect.

I think another system that may work is to have an agreement with an entire team. So, for the season the 1.1 league team would be able to loan out their YA players to a 2.1 league team. Whole team to team would make the most sense to me. It would make it a farm system of sorts. I would caution that for that to work it would need to be 2 different leagues. If it was a 1.1 dragon to a 2.1 dragon team then that team would have "knowledge" of those players the next season if they promote.

The biggest potential problem is if you wanted to sell that youth for financial or other reasons. Screws up that 2.1 team's plans. You also may have that 2.1 team wanting to buy that player but that 2.1 team now has the scouting report on that player with paying for a report. So either A) those agreed players can't go on the market while playing for the other team or B) it is a perk of that 2.1 team to have inside knowledge of that player.

No matter what, this is a HUGE task that will take more than a season to sort through. I'm thinking if anything close this was instituted it wouldn't be until season 5 at the earliest.

I do like the idea, I just worry about the...complications that arise technologically and complications by humans. lol
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