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scottishbronco
posted: 2012-06-07 21:37:28 (ID: 43949) Report Abuse
Looks like my TEs need some training


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canonico
posted: 2012-06-07 22:27:45 (ID: 43958) Report Abuse
Glad this didnt happened to any of my QB's (despite having 3 QB's runs in this game). It can be costly for a QB to fumble since theres usualy nobody behind him, and the fact that we cant yet s e l e c t when a QB should run and what QB it can be heart breaking to witness this play unroll.


1:08 3 and 5 to go on opp 27, Noah Ahmed (OC) snaps the ball to Vicenzo Clori (QB), who runs by himself, this seems to be a run over the left guard, Liberio Couto (MLB) goes for the blitz, Abraham Delong (TE/R) blocks, Vicenzo Clori (QB) fumbles, recovered by Liberio Couto (MLB)
1:04 Liberio Couto (MLB) returns the ball, Vicenzo Clori (QB) is not able to make the tackle, tackled by Abraham Delong (TE/R), this was a 39 yards fumble return

Bold - made me think of another thread where someone posted a QB with Tackling as a special trait.
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alexshans84
posted: 2012-06-08 06:27:32 (ID: 43975) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
I think I wrote it before: the TE does not block the DL completely, he just lowers the speed of the DL.


Is it right even if TE is stronger than DE?
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posted: 2012-06-08 09:23:19 (ID: 44004) Report Abuse
OK...wrong english: it might happen....
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canonico
posted: 2012-06-09 00:47:36 (ID: 44060) Report Abuse
I ws going through the "To Do List" and found this: The QB should fumble from time to time, especially after Sacks.

Yet this happened in a game my team was involved yesterday, like i previously posted, but did not noticed that something related was on the "To Do List".

1:08 3 and 5 to go on opp 27, Noah Ahmed (OC) snaps the ball to Vicenzo Clori (QB), who runs by himself, this seems to be a run over the left guard, Liberio Couto (MLB) goes for the blitz, Abraham Delong (TE/R) blocks, Vicenzo Clori (QB) fumbles, recovered by Liberio Couto (MLB)
1:04 Liberio Couto (MLB) returns the ball, Vicenzo Clori (QB) is not able to make the tackle, tackled by Abraham Delong (TE/R), this was a 39 yards fumble return



It seems in this play that the MLB Blitzed the QB causing the fumble. So it seems to happening already.

On a related note, maybe a slight improvement could be done in the Play by Play description. For instance in this specific play i posted, the PBP refers to the *TE/R blocking someone, i assume he blocked the MLB who was blitzing, or TRIED blocking him. Because the end result was that the QB had to run to prevent the sack and ended up coughing the ball. But who tackled the QB? It doesnt say, so it can either be the MLB who came on a Blitz, or since no other defender is descrived has having a major part take on this play, he might of fumbled it without no defensive player tackling him. Butter hands basicaly.

e.g.

1:08 3 and 5 to go on opp 27, Noah Ahmed (OC) snaps the ball to Vicenzo Clori (QB), who runs by himself, this seems to be a run over the left guard, Liberio Couto (MLB) goes for the blitz, Abraham Delong (TE/R) trys to block Liberio Couto (MLB) but can only delay him, Vicenzo Clori (QB) fumbles after beeing tackled by Liberio Couto (MLB), recovered by Liberio Couto (MLB)
1:04 Liberio Couto (MLB) returns the ball, Vicenzo Clori (QB) is not able to make the tackle, tackled by Abraham Delong (TE/R), this was a 39 yards fumble return

Just an e.g. this might not even been what happened, but if it was it would be more easely understandble when trying to figure out what occured.


* I read what Pete wrote in this thread saying "the TE does not block the DL completely, he just lowers the speed of the DL."
Is this true for their blocking ability when it comes to the LB's?







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alexshans84
posted: 2012-06-09 09:47:15 (ID: 44072) Report Abuse
canonico wrote:
I ws going through the "To Do List" and found this: The QB should fumble from time to time, especially after Sacks.

Yet this happened in a game my team was involved yesterday, like i previously posted, but did not noticed that something related was on the "To Do List".

1:08 3 and 5 to go on opp 27, Noah Ahmed (OC) snaps the ball to Vicenzo Clori (QB), who runs by himself, this seems to be a run over the left guard, Liberio Couto (MLB) goes for the blitz, Abraham Delong (TE/R) blocks, Vicenzo Clori (QB) fumbles, recovered by Liberio Couto (MLB)
1:04 Liberio Couto (MLB) returns the ball, Vicenzo Clori (QB) is not able to make the tackle, tackled by Abraham Delong (TE/R), this was a 39 yards fumble return



It seems in this play that the MLB Blitzed the QB causing the fumble. So it seems to happening already.


In the example above QB was rusher, not passer. As I can see "To Do List" tells that in the future QB will have a chance to fumble in passing plays too.
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canonico
posted: 2012-06-09 17:01:03 (ID: 44108) Report Abuse
alexshans84 wrote:
canonico wrote:
I ws going through the "To Do List" and found this: The QB should fumble from time to time, especially after Sacks.

Yet this happened in a game my team was involved yesterday, like i previously posted, but did not noticed that something related was on the "To Do List".

1:08 3 and 5 to go on opp 27, Noah Ahmed (OC) snaps the ball to Vicenzo Clori (QB), who runs by himself, this seems to be a run over the left guard, Liberio Couto (MLB) goes for the blitz, Abraham Delong (TE/R) blocks, Vicenzo Clori (QB) fumbles, recovered by Liberio Couto (MLB)
1:04 Liberio Couto (MLB) returns the ball, Vicenzo Clori (QB) is not able to make the tackle, tackled by Abraham Delong (TE/R), this was a 39 yards fumble return



It seems in this play that the MLB Blitzed the QB causing the fumble. So it seems to happening already.


In the example above QB was rusher, not passer. As I can see "To Do List" tells that in the future QB will have a chance to fumble in passing plays too.


The "To Do List" doesnt specify to be honest. And since you cant yet set a QB to run, all plays that are designed for a QB to have more action then simply handling the ball to either the HB or the FB are passing plays. The reason he is running ive been told by another user that, is totaly random, but i like to think that is not so much random, but more of a need, say you have a weak OL that allows Pass rushers to break through with some ease, i think that a QB playing in a team such has that might have more runs attempts then a QB playing in a team that the OL is stingy in allowing the opponent to break the line.

And again this might not be true.
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alexshans84
posted: 2012-06-25 10:41:24 (ID: 45434) Report Abuse
In my last league game:

Q3 0:45 2 and 18 to go on own 16, Hai Cavazos (OC) snaps the ball to Bernard Peterman (QB), Bernard Peterman (QB) selected Doug Kelsey (WR/L) as target, Terentiy Denisov (DE/R) breaks through the line, the pass goes inner left to the receiver, who catches the ball, Filipp Dedov (SS/R) missed the tackle, the result is a 84 yards pass, touchdown

But my defense made 7 sacks for 51 yds (did anybody make more?) and my offense made 2 passes: 1 incomplete and 1 interception
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Buffalo
posted: 2012-06-25 12:44:14 (ID: 45440) Report Abuse
1:08 1 and goal to go on opp 1, Terentiy Kopylov (OC) snaps the ball to George Belanger (QB), Emile Simons (HB/R) gets the ball, he starts running over the right tackle, Emile Simons (HB/R) fumbles, but recovers the ball, forward progress: 1 yards (Wishbone vs. 3-4-4)
1:03 touchdown

A fumble recovery for a TD. Unbelivable! A 99-yard fumble recovery TD would have been better for me.
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Nogard
posted: 2012-06-25 12:49:06 (ID: 45442) Report Abuse
99yard run in 5 seconds respect
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